I’m Loyal to The Part of Your Soul That Died With Your Baby

Sometimes when we hold shame, confusion, and the inability to forgive ourselves—the flow of life is blocked.

And sometimes an ancestral entanglement can result in life stories that look almost identical.

After a brief pause, the podcast and I are back! And with my colleague and friend, Brittany.

Brittany is very versed in the podcast because she’s listened to every episode! (She even knew to bring water and tissues to our call.)

In this client session, we dive deep into Alchemical Family & Systems Constellations. (Actually moving through two entanglements.)

You’ll especially want to tune into this client session if you, too:

» have never felt like anyone truly cared or saw you

» feel it’s not safe to trust or to trust yourself

» struggle to feel and express emotions

» have experienced a lot of loss

» are ready to fully receive 

**TW: This conversation includes mentions of sexual trauma, murder, & miscarriage. If you choose to listen, take gentle care.

Topics covered in this podcast episode:

• How to prepare for a constellation work session

• What is an entanglement?

• Why it’s important to be specific with intentions

• Why we can’t move forward when we’re entangled

• How to tune into the particular entanglement tethered to your intention

• Do you need to have a good relationship with living family members for constellation work to work?

• How much you need to know about your family history for a session like this

• How far back an ancestral entanglement can go

• The kind of reassurance ancestors need so they can receive support in a session

• If you can be entangled with an ancestor more than once

• What emotions are associated with the lungs and the heart space

• How to integrate after a constellation work session

• The future of constellation work with Amy

I’m always so grateful for my guests and their lineages’ courageousness and willingness to not only show up for this work, but their openness to share it with the world.

I hope that this session was soul food for you and that you deeply received from it.

Today with Brittany and her ancestors, there was almost a thousand years to unpack—give or take—and that's just one layer!

This is one of the main reasons I’ve decided to move from single sessions to packages. If you'd like to explore options to work with me, go to my website, fill out the application, and I’ll be in touch if it's a great match!

Until the next time, I send infinite blessings from the Doeg land that I steward, and I look forward to meeting you in future episodes.

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The unedited podcast transcript for this episode of The Soulful Visionary Podcast follows

Amy Babish: Welcome to the Soulful Visionary Podcast. I'm your host, Amy Babish, and welcome back. I have been many places, so we've had a little bit of a break on the podcast. I hosted a global women's somatic leadership retreat. It was filled with constellations in South Africa. A few weeks ago, that was our brief pause. Amy Babish: And now I'm back with my colleague and friend and SEO expert, Brittany. And I'm so grateful to have you here. And Brittany is the expert of all of everything you see in terms of my blog posts and my SEO content, she is a genius. She listens to every podcast. She's very, very, like, versed, like, super expert in what to do. So I asked her before we got started, I said, oh, I forgot to tell you. And she. She raises up a glass, a bell, jar of water and tissues. I'm like, she's a pro. She's listened to every episode. She knows I try this, so welcome and. Brittany Herzberg: Thank you. Amy Babish: I'm like, I told her, I said, I feel a lot of emotion. And so here we are. Here we are. Here we are. So I asked her, she's like, what do I need to do? And I said, just, you know, write down your intentions. And then what gets in the way? Like the entanglements. We're going to be doing some constellation work today, so anything else before we dig into your intentions? Brittany Herzberg: I don't think so. Like I. I told you before we hit record that I'm nervous but excited. Yeah, I feel like everyone probably feels like that. Amy Babish: Oh, nervous. Excited is like a real thing on this show, and I don't think I wish share this with you. I have a colleague who has A podcast. And I always send her referrals for her guests. It's not like. It's not personal work. It's a business podcast. And I said, have you ever thought about being a guest online? And she said, oh, my gosh, Amy, I listen to the feng shui. Amy Babish: That's fine. But when I listened to the constellation work, I just can't even listen. It's so vulnerable. And I said, yeah, yeah, it is really real. It's an authentic experience. And I have the deepest gratitude to my guests who are willing to come on and be 100 real. My deepest gratitude to you. Brittany Herzberg: Well, I mean, I'm grateful right back to you because I. Yeah, I just know that there's something here, and I feel like there's several somethings, but, like, there's definitely something. Amy Babish: Yeah, we're gonna work. We're gonna work on whatever this something is. Yeah, so. So this is a. This is a good, like, conversation, because I just had someone else yesterday who was going to be on the podcast after you, and she was like, what is an entanglement? And so I thought, we'll talk about your intention, and then I'll get into what the intent. What. What is an entanglement? I'll explain what that means, but we'll start. We'll with. Brittany Herzberg: Start. Amy Babish: Start with, what is your intention? I'll take some notes. Brittany Herzberg: Yeah. Okay. So I did. I wrote a lot of things down, but I'm going to try to be concise. Ish. And then if you want more, I can share the rest of the notes. Amy Babish: Of course. Brittany Herzberg: So, like, the biggest thing that I would love is to be free, find flow, to trust, to deeply know that I deserve. Fill in the blank and can receive that, can receive more. And then another kind of, like, line that came to me was that I feel very connected to the masculine energy and very not connected with my feminine and just meaning, like, structure and planning. Like, I'm very good with that, going with the flow and just even feeling my emotions, even, like, acknowledging that I have emotions. It's very. It's much. It's a struggle for me. And then, you know, like, some things that I've even just noticed with myself and family, too, like, patterns, things being taken, whether that's people passing away, pets passing away, leaving a place. Brittany Herzberg: And, you know, something else I wrote down is that nothing feels like it's mine. I've moved a lot. My boyfriend and I aren't even married. Like, there's a lot of things where it's like, it doesn't feel like mine. And it almost doesn't feel safe to have things that are mine. I don't think I've shared this with you, but I do have a history of miscarriage, so long, long time ago. So even that was something that, like, didn't feel like mine. So, yeah, there's a lot. Amy Babish: There's a lot there. There's a lot. Brittany Herzberg: And that's just like the surface. Amy Babish: So. So when we, when we get into. In. In the way that I do constellation work, it's really helpful to be as specific as possible. So these are even in your intention, the way you're naming it. We're getting into some of the entanglements, and I think you know that. But for the, for the listeners, you don't have to know your family history. You don't have to know really anything other than your own lived experience. Amy Babish: And so in. When we talk about an entanglement, it means that you are kind of in a boomerang or a rubber band of someone else from your systemic field. So it could be mom and dad, it could be hundreds or thousands of generations back that you are entangled with them. And so doesn't mean it's like everything everywhere all at once. And for the, for the place, like with Brittany, what she's naming, I want to be able to, um, be free, mind, flow, to trust, know that I deserve whatever, fill in the blank and receive more and then also be more connected to the flow and emotions and the feminine, those. That's her forward intention. And so as she's speaking, it feels like no matter what, what kind of comes up is part of this is. Is massive loss. Amy Babish: And then the other entanglement that I'm hearing is. That's related is it doesn't feel safe to have my own things of like my own things or my own relationships. And we're going to go into a little bit more specificity with the entanglements. So when you think about feeling emotions or going with the flow or receiving more or trusting more, what gets like, what. What happens in the now, like the last month or so? Brittany Herzberg: Yeah, it just feels like this massive roadblock just gets like slammed down because I'll have a little bit of progress. And it's like, nope, you can't do that. You can't pass go. Amy Babish: And does that look like, like, is it in personal relationships? Is it in your business? What. Tell me, tell me the specificity of where it is. Brittany Herzberg: Yeah, it's both. So like with business, I mean, money is one big thing where I feel like I'M doing all the right things, and I feel like it should be leading to more income, more clients, more stability, just feeling more stable, and it's just not happening. Like, I'll have a little glimpse of it, and then a client will. You know, I think a few months ago, a client signed, and then the next day turned around and was like, actually, I found somebody else I want to work with. So that was, like, a pretty big project, and that was time, that was money. That was like, me thinking that I had gotten picked to do this thing. And then immediately it's like, nope, it's like, that's one example. Amy Babish: Okay. And do you feel like it. Is it more like your thoughts are consumed with. I don't understand why this isn't working? Or I don't understand, like, so I can hear, like, the concrete outcomes. What else is involved in? Like, does that mean you, like, this isn't you? I know this. But just for. For listeners, does that mean you start overeating? Does it mean that you, like, numb out on social media? What. What happens in the meantime? Since you're not. Amy Babish: You have, okay, this business contract, poof. Disappears. And I can hear that it's hard for you to access emotions. So since you're not accessing emotions and then new business isn't coming in, what else is actually happening? Brittany Herzberg: Yeah, I am starting to access emotions. Last year, I had. Between people and pets, there were six losses. So it was like a big year of, like, yeah, it was a big year of loss. So, like, I did start tapping into my emotions, and I was like, oh, okay. I realized that if I let myself feel the feelings, that the healing happens and happens a little bit quicker. So I'm like, oh, okay. I do recognize that that's safer. Brittany Herzberg: So that's good. And a positive thing. I do tend to escape to books. That's always been my thing is I escape to books. Huge reader. Yeah. So I just, like, go find some other story, and there's usually a lot of drama and stuff in there. And I'm like, oh, okay, I can latch onto your thing because there will be some conclusion to it. Amy Babish: Oh, yeah. Brittany Herzberg: Yeah. But my thoughts do get very, very consumed. I do get a bit fixated on why didn't this work, why isn't this working? I know that that can be, like, a thing that blocks me and. And yet I still struggle to not let my brain go there. Amy Babish: So this is a really good kind of sub conversation. So this is where, you know, there's. I'm an nlp, neuro Linguistic programming certified, you know, person facilitator. And that is the basis of belief work and belief change work. And when we have an entanglement, there's no mantra, there's no NLP process that's going to help that. So I hope that you and people listening, it's like to give yourself some grace, like you're not in charge of this. Brittany Herzberg: Right, Right. Yeah. And that has been a big sigh of relief that I've gotten just by listening to you and the other conversations you've had. I'm like, oh, okay. There could be something else here that I don't need to do or say or chant or whatever. It's like there's something else. And so that's why I messaged you. Cause I was like, amy, there's something here. Amy Babish: Yeah, there's something here. And you know, this is where I have like such compassion because so many people throw so many things because they're very, I, I, I talk to very capable, very high functioning people, very smart people. And it feels, it can feel like crazy making or insanity or just like so much frustration and anger around wide like why is this immovable for me? Or why do I always go Like I had a retreat at my home this weekend for my year long program and one of the women put it in like such a good, like really succinct words. She's like, I know how to hustle, I know how to move forward. But no matter what I do, once I get money, I go back to zero. Like a big expense comes up or an unforeseen thing comes up and I go back to zero and I start the same cycle over again. Brittany Herzberg: Yeah, I can very much relate to that. Amy Babish: Yeah, yeah, I can feel that in. Brittany Herzberg: Your field big time. And I know that it's not just me where I'm like, I do feel like I'm, I guess the way that I think about entanglements is like I'm living out someone else's stuff, someone else's story. Amy Babish: They're unfinished in ending. Brittany Herzberg: Yes. Amy Babish: And when we were in South Africa, a big theme that came up from the wisdom of the, of the systemic field in a group constellation was one of the reps said they were in this like really horrific cycle, like lifetimes of something repeating. And this rep said to the field, we can't repeat the cycle to break the cycle. And the way this, this rep kind of referenced it was to move forward is how we break the cycle. Brittany Herzberg: Yeah. Amy Babish: And we can't move forward when we're entangled. So this Is this is where constellation work is absolutely super helpful because the resource that's needed for whatever ancestor or systemic issue you're entangled with, that they were entangled with. This resource wasn't available in their lifetime. Brittany Herzberg: Yeah. Amy Babish: Like, it just wasn't available. They, you know, and from a constellation. This weekend we had a resource that was epic. We had the resources. I do constellations double blind in person, which means the reps don't know who they're representing. So here, you and I will know. We'll figure out who it is. Like, it'll be a bit clearer. Amy Babish: But when I do it in groups, because I have so many skeptical people that come to me, it's best that they don't know who they're repping. So the resource this weekend didn't know they were representing Jesus. Brittany Herzberg: Oh, wow. Amy Babish: And this client is very spiritual. Not shaming, confused religious person, but very open, like in the. In the fullness of the vibration of her relationship with Jesus. And she said, I want Jesus as my resource and my consolation. And then another, another kind of facet of the constellation, the Virgin Mary, showed up. Wow. And so those two resources were so disconnected from the systemic field. And we were like in the 1400s and 1500s in this constellation. Amy Babish: Even though this client in real life is connected to Jesus and Mary, her systemic field was not. So that ancestor that she was, she was entangled with a couple ancestors that he. That alchemy that needed to happen, she brought it from the future into the past with her intention. Yeah. So we never know how this is going to unfold. And so with you, like, you're so. You're such a bright light. Like, you're so. Amy Babish: You have so much energy. Like, I've had the pleasure to get to know you. I don't know you super well, but you are a vibrant soul on the path of evolution. And you want something very different. And I know that about you. And it can be exhausting to not be able. Like, you're still. I don't know how old you are, but I'm thinking early 30s. Brittany Herzberg: Yeah. Yeah. When I just turned 34, I was. Amy Babish: Like, what's your number now? You know, when we're in our early 30s, we don't meet the exhaustion of when we have perimenopause or menopause or when life gets super hard. Like having six deaths last year. Like, the energy and the life force that's entangled with the entanglement is quite big. So my other thing that I know about you, which you didn't Name, but we can throw it in there. Is that you're looking for a house with you and your boyfriend? Brittany Herzberg: Yes. Yeah. Yeah. In my mind, I was tying that together with, like, nothing is mine, and big time with that, because I've moved around my entire life. I think my first move happened when I was somewhere around a year old, maybe younger, and I've just been moving ever since. And I do know that that's not just a me thing that's definitely impacted me, but I have actually noticed that that has happened at least two generations where people are making big moves. Amy Babish: Okay. And so if you can put in your own words of, like, what kind of house that you and your partner want, can you tell us just in as specific terms as you can, what. What kind of house are you looking for? Brittany Herzberg: Comfort is, like our number one thing. So that means things like central ac. That means things like having space where it just feels like our cute little bubble because we both work from home and we do want a family. So having space to spread out within the home, feeling like it's our little retreat, our little area, but convenient to things like grocery stores or, you know, if we go hiking or go see a concert or something, because we. We like being connected, but, like, when we want to be connected, we don't want to be in the hubbub. So, yeah, probably at least two levels, at least three bedrooms, and just comfort is like number number one. Amy Babish: And are you tied to the geographic area Ish. Brittany Herzberg: That you're in currently the state, but not the city? Like, we have some that we really love. I say that we have some bubbles that we'd like to be in. In the bubble that we're in right now, it feels like we are priced out, but it also feels like home. Amy Babish: Okay. Brittany Herzberg: Oh, and actually this might apply, too. I meant to mention this. We're about, like, an hour away from my. Where my ancestors actually settled when they came to the US And I think I've mentioned that maybe, but I did want to name that today. And then his family is also. They settled in Connecticut. It was pretty crazy because nowhere that I've ever lived felt like home. But once we got to Connecticut, I was like, oh, this is home. Brittany Herzberg: So, like, I know I'm supposed to be here. Amy Babish: Okay. Okay. I think. Is there anything else that's coming up? Because when we start to tap into the field this way, sometimes things that feel unrelated come up. Don't hold anything back. Brittany Herzberg: Okay. I know one thing that's just been, like, very front of my brain today has been this weird thing happens when I have friends who get pregnant. I'm so, like. And it took me a long time to name it. It only came up a few months ago. I will have girlfriends that get pregnant, and I'm, like, excited and happy for them and, you know, want to talk with them and ask them questions, and they're sharing things with me. And then, like, around the time, like, eight, nine months when they're about to give birth, I just find that I back away. And I don't really come back into their world for. Brittany Herzberg: Until the kid's about, like a year, year and a half, if I come back at all. So I just noticed that this happens where I, like, just peace, heal way back. Amy Babish: Okay. Brittany Herzberg: And I guess sort of related to that, I have noticed, like, me shrinking, me being quiet. That was definitely, like, something that's been with me, a habit that's been with me forever. I used to be a massage therapist and even, like, being quiet, being in a field where I really needed to be quiet for my job. I was making good money. Now that I'm talking for my job, it feels like. Yeah, it feels like a block, a barrier, something. Amy Babish: Okay. Oh, I feel this one. I feel this one. Okay. So I feel like we have. We are into the field. And as you know, and for the listeners who are new or the listeners who are like. I'm hearing this differently because of this conversation. Amy Babish: Here we are. So when we tune into the field, it's like the old school radio that has a dial, so we're going to 101.5. Because our ancestral field is infinite, our systemic field is infinite. And the way we tune into this specific intention for you and these specific entanglements is a specific frequency. And so when we tune in, we might get an image. We might get words, we might get colors. Everybody's field speaks in different ways. And I will tune in and you'll tune in, and that'll be our first layer. Amy Babish: Okay. So we'll tune in now and you'll just notice what happens it. And whenever you feel like you have it, Brittany, you can just let me know. Brittany Herzberg: It feels like different snippets that I'm getting, but, yeah. Okay. The first thing I was noticing was, like, feeling like I'm laying in a field of wildflowers. There was a phrase that was coming up. I didn't. I didn't mean for this to happen. I felt like I either saw or was like a young woman. And I feel like I'm laying in the field and that there's like, someone coming. Amy Babish: Oh. Brittany Herzberg: And then I was also feeling a little bit just like, shortness of breath, something with, like, my chest. Okay. Amy Babish: And would it be helpful to hear my. My tune in? Brittany Herzberg: Yes. Amy Babish: Okay. It's always up to the client. Brittany Herzberg: Yeah. Amy Babish: So I felt like I was also in a couple different parts of time. I don't know if they were timeline specifically, but I felt. I felt like I was on the ocean. I was in the ocean or on the ocean. And then I felt like I was on the shores. And then I felt like a tragedy happened. And then I could feel, like, the longing and the wanting for freedom. And then, like, I heard the statement, no enemies to call my own. Amy Babish: And then I had a sense of something with babies. Brittany Herzberg: Okay. I do remember the breeze going. So, like, that makes sense even with what you were saying with the waves. Amy Babish: And we can be in different places. And with the babies. I don't know, the. The question mark I have is I don't know if the babies were dying or if they were taken. So that's our first layer of tune in. And we're just kind of allowing the field to be with us, like, in a more specific way. So now our next step is to bring your mom behind your left shoulder, and we're really talking with, like, her essence or her soul. You're not having a conversation as if you would have it with her as you know her to be in this lifetime. Brittany Herzberg: Right. Amy Babish: Because that's. I think some people, when they go to do ancestral work, they're like, oh, this will never work. And, yeah, this is a little different than that. So. Brittany Herzberg: Yeah. Amy Babish: Yeah. So you're gonna. And you're gonna ask your mom specifically, does she carry these entanglements? Brittany Herzberg: I'm getting a no. Amy Babish: Okay. And then we'll bring your dad behind your right shoulder, and we'll ask him, does he carry these entanglements? Brittany Herzberg: Getting a yes. And almost like. Like hiding. Amy Babish: Yeah. Okay. And then we're gonna. We're going to go behind, placing behind your dad, his. His parents, so your grandparents, his mom. His mom on his left shoulder, his dad on his. His right shoulder. And we're going to ask. Amy Babish: You're going to ask them, do you carry these patterns? And did it start with you? Brittany Herzberg: I feel like the grandpa's, like, raising his hand. Amy Babish: Yeah. Brittany Herzberg: But know that it. It did not start with him. Amy Babish: Okay. And we're gonna. We're gonna. We're gonna go for, like, probably five generations just to double check. And then we might have to go further back. So we're gonna bring Your grandfather's parents behind him, and we'll ask them the same questions. Brittany Herzberg: I feel like again, the dad is raising his hand, and also I am feeling like the further we go back, I'm feeling almost like this, like, clamped clamping down on my throat and my chest. Amy Babish: And so we can say. You can say to them, you don't need to cause pain in my body. I will pay attention. And we will go to go. Brittany Herzberg: It's easing up a little. Amy Babish: Yeah. Because sometimes they, like, literally will like. It's kind of like kids or pets who are, like, pawing at you. The ancestors will start to be in the field in a way that's like, please pay attention to me. And they don't how to say, please pay attention to me, or to be patient with the process. Brittany Herzberg: It must be a family treat. Amy Babish: Yeah. Look here. Here we are. Here we are. And we're gonna just keep on pacing. So we'll go to your three greats back and ask your great, great, great grandfather and grandmother about it. Brittany Herzberg: That time. I'm getting the woman. Amy Babish: Yeah. And does she say it started with her and. Brittany Herzberg: No, I'm seeing her shake her head now. Amy Babish: Okay, so then we're going to go to four grates back behind her. So great, great, great, great grandmother, grandmother and grandfather. Yep. Brittany Herzberg: It feels fuzzy. I feel like I'm not getting anything. Amy Babish: Okay. And we will also just. Just for, like, checks and balances, go one layer behind them. So that would be 5gr. Brittany Herzberg: I actually feel like it's another guy raising his hand. Amy Babish: Okay. Because sometimes in the field, it. It either there was trauma or dissociation, and it's just. It's still there because I feel. I can feel it's quite far. Brittany Herzberg: So we're. Amy Babish: We're going. We're five grades back. And, you know, they're show. They're starting to show us, like, the domino. Like, it's just like it's going back and back and back. So when it becomes like this kind of succinct in some ways, the next place we're going to go to is another tune in. Because they don't have the. They don't have the awareness at this part of the field to say this is where it started. Amy Babish: But the whole field does. So we're going to go back and we're going to retune in and ask your paternal line to take you to the ancestor that started with. And they can give you as much context as possible, like the time, the place, what the environment's like. If they know the country, those Kind of things. Brittany Herzberg: I do get the sense that what you were picking up on, what I was picking up on were actually related. It's like getting. Landing on the shore, like, taking this trip, landing on the shore and then like, the field or meadow or whatever was like a happy place or it used to be a happy place. Amy Babish: Okay. Brittany Herzberg: It feels like it was. Became not a happy place. Amy Babish: Yeah. So we can ask if they can show you the ancestor that this is about. So as much. As much as they can offer the gender or the age of when it really started. Brittany Herzberg: I can't really pin down her age, but it does feel like a young woman. I can't tell if it's, like, teenage or, like, early 20s. Amy Babish: Yep. And back then, you know, people looked a little bit different, but beyond. It's a girl beyond a young woman, beyond puberty. Okay. And you can. You can say to her, you can introduce yourself. You can say, I'm your descendant and I'm in the year 2025. And. Amy Babish: Yeah, yeah, you're what's happening. Brittany Herzberg: I feel like her face is just like, what? Amy Babish: Yeah, yeah. So sometimes when kind of the. The. The entanglements that you're speaking about when we started Brittany, it can be if there was a real, like. Because tragedies and unforeseen deaths have a certain kind of flavor. So when it's that, the next question you can say to her is, do you know you're dead? Not all ancestors know they're dead. Brittany Herzberg: I'm getting this kind of like, well, I guess so now that you say it. Amy Babish: Yeah. So she might have been, like, in limbo. And so you can explain to her in your own words, I believe that I'm entangled with you and I am care. I am loyal to whatever happened to you in your lifetime with having to move a lot, like, not feeling worthy, not feeling deserving, not being able to receive. Struggling with feminine flow, struggling with my femininities, struggling with money. Like, as long as I'm silent and the good girl, I can make a lot of money. When I start to speak and be my whole self, I get into, like, I'm being, you know, reprimanded or punished or things are being withheld. So you can. Amy Babish: And, like, I also can't get. I can't have a healthy pregnancy, that I have a healthy baby. Give her all the details and say, does this sound like what you lived through? Brittany Herzberg: She's even, like, the moment that I started sharing, she's just like, yeah. Whoa, someone else understands. Amy Babish: Yeah. Yeah. And so to say to her, like, in your own words, like, how painful all of that is for you. Like, it's frustrating. I feel like there's something wrong with me at times, or I feel like, why can't this happen? Like, nothing I do makes anything change. Like, I feel helpless. I feel hopeless. Brittany Herzberg: I'm getting, like, the same emotions that I have of, like, putting on a happy front. Like, I feel like she does that. But then as we're naming these things, it's, like, really getting real. Amy Babish: Yeah. Yeah. And. And so you can say to her, I am loyal to, you know, your happy front. And I would, like. I would like something very different, and I'm willing to get you some help to understand you more so that we can. You can. You can rest in peace, and I can move forward in my life. Brittany Herzberg: Yeah. I feel like she's, like, taking my hand and, like, almost like holding my hand and, like, all right, let's do this. Amy Babish: Okay. She's. She's very willing. She's super willing, so to say to her, can you. Can you show me or tell me about the tragedy or the tragedies that you've experienced? I. I like trying to convey to her, like, I really need to understand you from a heartfelt place versus an intellectual place, like, a thinking place. Brittany Herzberg: It's just this, like, even when you name that, it's like, but that's safer. That's. Amy Babish: Yeah. Yeah. Brittany Herzberg: Easier. Amy Babish: And so what could you say to her to help her to understand that that's confusion? Brittany Herzberg: Just, like, I. I know that that feels safer, but if we get to move forward, if we want to move forward and get this healing, like, we have to go there. Amy Babish: Yeah. Yeah. We can't move forward until something is brought into wholeness or something is fully recognized or if there were secrets, the secrets need to come into wholeness. Brittany Herzberg: I'm getting the throat again. And just a little bit ago, I was getting this, like, clamping down on my shoulder, and I don't know if it's me being held in place or, you know, like, her or. Yeah. It feels like with the throat, it feels like this. Just like, you know how someone takes their hand and, like, holds someone up against a wall or something? Like, we're not talking about that. We're not. Amy Babish: Yeah. So you can say to her, we're not going to blame her. We're not going to shame her. And in this. In this luminal space, we are safe. Whatever happened in that lifetime won't happen again in this moment, to her or to you. No one will be. No One will be punished for telling as much as the truth is, as she knows or her lived experience. Brittany Herzberg: I'm still kind of getting flashes and I also had part one of the storylines or one of the images I'm being shown. I feel like I had this image come to me, like, I don't know, a few weeks ago of actually someone killing their own child, like out of thinking it was protecting them. So that's one scene that I'm getting. There's another scene that I'm getting of like, it just feels like a bunch of guys like walking through the woods, just like on a mission to find something or I don't know, I can't tell if they're just like on a journey to get to a destination or if they're like hunting for someone or. Amy Babish: Okay, so. So you can ask her directly, did you have to kill your own child. Brittany Herzberg: She's nodding. Amy Babish: Yeah. Yeah. And can you ask her, can you tell me what was going on that necessitate, like you thought that that was the best possible solution? Things must have been so hard and so complicated. Brittany Herzberg: It seems to have something to do with like she thought that the kid was going to be taken and I don't know, used somehow or that it was just better to not have them go through that. Amy Babish: Yeah. And ask her who was, who was, who was going to be taken. Like, who was the one who was taking and going to use. What was that about? Like, was it just her baby? Was it other babies of a certain kind of mom or certain kind of family? Brittany Herzberg: It seems like she had some kind of heads up. So I think it was a pattern that there was just something going on. And let me see if I can find the through line. Maybe like being so low class that they just took the babies and I don't know, I'm not getting quite clear on like what they would use them for. Amy Babish: Okay. And ask her was this kind of rampant in her village or in her community? Brittany Herzberg: Yeah, she's having me like almost like zoom up and out that there was like a small community. Amy Babish: Okay. And ask her. They might not know this, but ask her if she's able to say if it was in Connecticut. Brittany Herzberg: I'm getting no. Amy Babish: Okay. Ask, Ask her if it happened before she came over on the boat. Brittany Herzberg: I'm not getting anything clear. Amy Babish: Okay. Brittany Herzberg: It doesn't feel like she came here. Amy Babish: Okay. So we can, we can ask her who did she go to for help for this or did she go to anybody for help? Yes. Here. Brittany Herzberg: I'm laughing because I swear to God it's the same experience. She didn't have anyone she could go to. Amy Babish: Yeah. So you can explain to her. I feel like I've never had anybody too. Yeah. And you can explain to her about your miscarriages. Yeah. Brittany Herzberg: It's so cute. She just, like, wants to hug me. Amy Babish: Yeah. Yeah. She has so much compassion. She understands what it's like to not be able to have a baby that you deeply desire in a safe way. And does she know about, like, does she know about the men who are coming or the men that are hunting pregnant women who are from lower classes? Brittany Herzberg: She doesn't know about them. I just. She keeps just showing me, like, where they're just honest, you know, how people look like they're on a mission? It just like all these guys look like they're on a mission. Just like, through. Through the woods. Amy Babish: Okay. Oh, go ahead, go ahead. Brittany Herzberg: No, no, I was just gonna say she doesn't really seem to know who they are, just that they exist and that they're coming. Amy Babish: Okay. And ask her what happened with the baby, when she killed the baby. Brittany Herzberg: I'm getting the sense that she buried it in that field and that that's why she likes going back. Amy Babish: Yeah, yeah. And so ask her, did she do that alone? Or was there anybody there that could witness her? Brittany Herzberg: It seems like alone. Amy Babish: Yeah. Yeah. And ask her what happened after she buried her baby. Brittany Herzberg: She just kind of, like, went on his life. Amy Babish: And you can say this in kind of like, however, the words that resonate for you, but it feels almost like she died. Her soul died with the baby. Brittany Herzberg: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Amy Babish: So if it feels meaningful for her in this space, we can invite her to hold her. Her baby. The soul of her baby. Brittany Herzberg: Yeah. She's nodding. Amy Babish: Yeah. And invite her soul to come back out from the grave from the wildflowers, from the. From the field. Yeah. What happens? Brittany Herzberg: She's just kind of like. That can happen. Amy Babish: Yeah, that can. We could do that here. And you can ask her if there's any. If there's any. Anything that would help her to feel like it's safe. Like, does she need more safety or does she need more resource? Because we can invite in whatever she needs. Brittany Herzberg: She wants to be in the field, like, in that field with the flowers. Amy Babish: Yeah. She can take you to the flowers, to the vibration of the resonance of that magical field, the healing field, and her baby can be whole and complete again. And so we can invite her to reconnect with her, with the soul of her baby and her own soul. Brittany Herzberg: She just seems so happy. Amy Babish: Yeah. And you can ask her. Do you feel like you need to say I'm sorry to your baby or do you need to ask your baby for forgiveness? Anything like that. We're just. We're just checking. Brittany Herzberg: Yeah. She's nodding. Amy Babish: Yeah, yeah. So. And see if she can. If she's able to invite her soul back into her body. Yeah. Brittany Herzberg: There's like a little bit of, like, a pause, but. Amy Babish: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because this is something that she needs. Her soul, not just her human. She needs her soul back in her body to be able to fully express vulnerably to her baby what happened. Brittany Herzberg: So interesting. The baby's just like. I mean, it's not talking, but it's just like this sense of like, I get it. Amy Babish: Yeah, yeah. The baby can convey in the baby's way, I forgive you, and I just want to be with you kind of in. In this afterlife. Brittany Herzberg: Kind of like. So with all the losses that I had last year, there. There are, you know, this. They're like animal signs that I'll see where it's almost like the spirits are coming back and visiting me. And she's making me. Seems to be conveying that. Like, she's a little jealous that that happened because she didn't feel like that happened with her. Her baby. Amy Babish: Yeah. So you. We can explain to her that sometimes when we hold so much shame, confusion, and the inability to forgive ourself, it's like the. The flow of life is being blocked. So her soul wasn't there. So her human, her. Her physical body, her emotional body, her intellectual body was doing the very best she could, but it couldn't fully receive. It couldn't receive, like, the communication from the systemic field of life. Brittany Herzberg: Yeah. She kind of like, oh, I get it. Like, she was. She was like, I get it. Because, you know, like you said, like, her soul was buried with her baby. Amy Babish: Yeah. So her soul. Brittany Herzberg: I get it. Amy Babish: Her soul probably was getting, like, ants and snakes and critters and beetles and. Brittany Herzberg: Like, roots and rocks, and she's over here. Like, I don't get anything. Like, the human. Amy Babish: Yeah. The human was like, I feel so alone and I feel punished. Yeah. And so we can ask her is there anything else that she feels like she needs to say or any other support she needs, any other confusion she has? Like, this is her time. Brittany Herzberg: I'm just getting, like, this, you know, really deep thank you for finally feeling like she has someone that cares and is paying attention. Amy Babish: Yeah, yeah. And. And you can say to her, I belong to your feeling like, no one's paid attention to me, like I didn't matter because I put on a happy face. And you can say to her, I belong to, to your confusion. That that's how we could get through. Yeah. Because when people can't see our whole selves, they don't know to pay attention. And when people don't hear that I need help, I feel alone. Amy Babish: They don't know how to come. And it also feels important. What's coming through now is the. She was this baby. Does she have this, this, this get pregnant with someone that she cared about and loved? Brittany Herzberg: Doesn't seem like it. Amy Babish: Yeah. So to say to her, does she carry any confusion if it was a non consensual pregnancy or if it was a rape? Because that feels important here. Brittany Herzberg: Yeah. She's not being clear about what that might be, but I'm getting. Yeah. That there was something there. Amy Babish: So it's important that the baby knows that the baby still was wanted even though there was either a rape or something non consensual about the conception. And we can ask her, does she feel like she needs some support to have full, full access to her wholeness? Brittany Herzberg: Yeah, she's kind of like rubbing her hand around like, you know, lower abdomen where uterus would be and that kind of thing. Yeah. Amy Babish: So we can ask her because I'm not sure where she is. It feels like we're in the anywhere from 13 to 1400s. Is she able. Brittany Herzberg: Yeah. Amy Babish: Able to tell us that? Brittany Herzberg: She's just nodding and that's kind of what I was feeling. But I'm not getting a year. Amy Babish: So we can ask her. This is a time where there's still this. I'm sensing like, you know, the church, the early church is there, but also there's paganism. Can we ask her if there's a, a spiritual reference or support that we can invite in to help her with this? And it might be a tree. It doesn't have to be a God or goddess or a saint. It could be anything. Brittany Herzberg: I'm getting almost like it's a little bit of both, like God and nature. Amy Babish: Yeah. Yeah. She was, she was like able to be free with that. And so we can invite in whatever symbol that would resonate for her that means God. And if she needs to kind of amplify or personify the flowers in this medal because they seem really important. Like maybe the flowers were a deity kind of form to her that they can start to talk with her. Brittany Herzberg: They can getting like trees and flowers and the sun. Like those are the things I'm being shown. Amy Babish: Yep. Brittany Herzberg: And not just any tree. She's like the big ones. Amy Babish: Yeah, the big ones. The ancient trees. Yeah, the ancient trees that, that tracks. So we can ask the tr. The. The ancient trees, the sun and the flowers to either give her a vibe, vibrational transmission, energetic transmission, or they can give her words. I don't know how she communicated with them. So however they communicated to give them permission to fully like compost and alchemize anything in the systemic field around being a woman at that time, around being hunted, around not using her voice, around having to move all the time around. Amy Babish: It feels like what I'm hearing is like non consensual sex was the way that she had sex. So she doesn't know that that's there's a choice. So that, that was the confusion of the times for a long time. Anything around, they might not have had money, but they had like value and worthiness. Any. Any kind of confusion she carries around worthiness or deservingness or ability to safely receive. And then also I can, I can really hear in her it wasn't safe to trust herself or trust life itself. So things were taken from her all the time. Amy Babish: I can really feel that in her field. Brittany Herzberg: Yeah. Amy Babish: And that I can feel like almost like the only place that was home was this field. So she didn't have a safe, a safe place. So inviting in those elemental supports of the sun, the ancient trees, the flowers and asking them to alchemize. And I really, really feel it in her right breast. Like something about her right breast. I don't know if she had cancer. She knows she had cancer, but she has something in her right breast. Brittany Herzberg: Okay. Amy Babish: Kind of like it's like a heaviness around it. Brittany Herzberg: Yeah. Amy Babish: And also around her throat because you keep on feeling it in your throat. Brittany Herzberg: Yeah. It's gotten a lot lighter, but yeah. Amy Babish: And that these elemental supports can also give to you right now. So she's getting it, the baby's getting it, you're getting it. And the like alchemizing the confusion that she can't go past go like no matter what she does, she goes back to zero. And that she felt like she did all the right things and she still had this really horrific life where she had to end up killing her own baby. And it sounds like she escaped to the flowers. You escaped to books? She escaped to flowers. Brittany Herzberg: Yeah. It's. It's almost like I did have one of the houses that we lived at. There was a place in the backyard and I would always go out there and it was by this like Little stream. And, and I'm hearing like that's where you met me. Amy Babish: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. She saw how special you are. She knew that you'd be able to come for her. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Just breathe it in. And this can wash through the timeline of this, of this lifetime. Brittany, for you. It can wash through all the timelines. Amy Babish: Cuz I feel like you two have been entangled before. Brittany Herzberg: Yeah, yeah. Amy Babish: I can feel that it's moving from her breast to like there's an ache in her lungs. Like a lot of grief. Brittany Herzberg: Yeah, it's feeling just like heavy. Amy Babish: Yeah. Brittany Herzberg: In that area for me. Amy Babish: A lot of grief and so much betrayal, which is the back of the heart. Brittany Herzberg: Yeah. Amy Babish: So the, those resources, those elemental resources can, can invite in literally whatever the, the three of you need. So they might fill your body with flowers, they might fill your body with sunshine. They might allow you to just go to the tree and lean against the tree or hug the tree or the trees. Just experiment. The three of you can experiment with whatever is needed. Brittany Herzberg: It seems like the happiest place is like there's a big, big, big giant tree. The three of us are like leaned up against it and we can, we're looking out on the field and the sun's like coming down on us. Amy Babish: Yeah. And it's, it's like we can give the full permission, the full consent for total and complete alchemy. And what we're inviting in for, for her and the baby is complete wholeness, complete peace. Permission to complete something that they've been sitting with for almost, you know, close to a thousand years. Yeah. Of limbo, of, of being disconnected from each other, from themselves. And for you, you can really feel the wholeness and, and your Brittany-ness. So it's, it's like, oh, this is my wholeness. Amy Babish: And letting it alchemize all of the instability that you grew up with, all the moving, moving, moving, all of the having to put on a happy face to get by, to survive, the tamping down of emotions, the inability to receive the feeling like it's not safe to have anything that's mine. The safe, the, the feeling like I can't safely settle any place, no place can be a safe home. And that whatever you carried epigenetically through this ancestor around your miscarriages, asking for that womb healing, the hormonal healing around it, the endocrine healing around it, the pituitary healing around it, the ovary healing, the pancreas, the blood lil lymph and oxygen itself. And what I'm hearing is like, really just breathe in. Breathe in whatever that meadow smells like. It might be like a very, like, woodsy smell, but it feels like you're. You're breathing in the life cycle of the forest. That completing this, the three of you completing this, is that new life can come in, new stability can come in, new abundance, new fullness can come in. Amy Babish: And what's happening for you and her and the baby and. And the elementals. Brittany Herzberg: It's really funny. She and I kind of like looking at each other because we're so used to doing and going and sitting still. Never felt safe. Amy Babish: And we're kind of like, this is nice. Yeah. This is something different. This feels like very cozy and. Yeah. Is there anything else she needs to say or ask you or share with you? Brittany Herzberg: Some, like, I don't know, the words are kind of jumbled, but like, despite all of the bad stuff, like, there can still be happiness and love. And that seems to be what she's taking away from it and wants me to really get. He just seems so happy and content. Amy Babish: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you can see that she's trusting it. She's receiving it really quickly. It's not blocked. Yeah. And what I would say to her is like, this is the wholeness. When we're in our wholeness, we. It's not that bad things aren't going to happen. Amy Babish: Right. Life is. Life is full of everything. And when we are in the flow of life and fully supported, we can right. Size the really horrible things that happen and we can feel the feelings around them and get the medicine and get the lessons and then we can move into the flow of life, of receiving and trusting again and fully expressing and fully being safe to, you know, chill out and also safe to be happy and joyful and connected. Right. To bask in the sun and really enjoy it. Not just be like, I went on the sun for 10 minutes and got it on my forehead because a blog told me to do that. Amy Babish: Like, it's like, I'm gonna actually enjoy it. I'm gonna savor it. Yeah. Yeah. Is there anything else with her or the baby? Brittany Herzberg: They seem good. Amy Babish: Yeah. So they can. They can be in that place and their physical bodies can be buried wherever she wants to bury them. And if she wants you to witness that, we can do that. Or she might just be like, we just take our time. Brittany Herzberg: Yeah, I'm getting more of that. We want to take our time. Amy Babish: Yeah, I can feel that too. So she. She has. She's reconnected to her elemental supports. God to the universe. And the next step is for you to say to her, I'm ready to take my life back from you. I see you from my full heart. I see the complexity that you carry and that your baby carried and that I have. Amy Babish: I've been entangled with both of you. So then you can take your life back from the baby, too. Brittany Herzberg: I'm getting almost just like, all right, go. Amy Babish: Yeah, yeah. So you're saying now we're going to invite that resource, those resources at the big, big, big, giant tree, the sun and the meadow to literally wash epigenetically through the whole lineage, all the way down to you, into your legacy. So sometimes it's just. It's like a feeling. Sometimes it's douche. Sometimes it's color. Sometimes it's just like you see them all in the field. It works however it works in your lineage. Brittany Herzberg: Yeah. I'm seeing almost like a slide and like they're each sliding down. Amy Babish: Yeah. That's amazing. That's. You come from fun. Some. Some fun people when they're in their wholeness. Brittany Herzberg: Exactly that part. Amy Babish: Yeah. And so when we get to your dad, you let me know. Brittany Herzberg: Yeah, we're. We're there. Amy Babish: Okay, so this is the time for you to say to your dad whatever you need to say Brittany. Because now you know about this ancestor you know about. He wasn't entangled with her, but he saw everything happened. Yeah. And he. Does he know about your miscarriages? Brittany Herzberg: Yeah. Amy Babish: Okay, so you get to talk to him about all those things, about the moves about having to put the happy face on, about feeling alone, feeling like as long as you're quiet, I'll be rewarded. And I'll be. As long as I'm a good girl. And you can say, and it's being alchemized today. Brittany Herzberg: It's so weird. Like, I never thought of my ancestors or my family as, like, huggy people, but everyone's hugging. Amy Babish: Yeah. Yeah. That's when. When people are in their wholeness, they hug. They hug. Brittany Herzberg: Oh, man. Amy Babish: Yeah. What's happening for you and your dad? Yeah. Brittany Herzberg: Like, I shared everything with him, and then he hugged me. Amy Babish: Is there anything you feel like you're entangled with your dad over with everything you named in the beginning around that. Yeah. So. So you can say to him in your own words, I've been loyal to. My life force has been going not only to the ancestor, but it's been going to you in these ways. I haven't been able to fully move forward in my life because I've been giving you my life force to take care of you in these ways around, these things that also are happening in my life. Brittany Herzberg: It just feels like this. Like what? Really? Amy Babish: Yeah. You didn't know? He didn't know. Cause he's been alone. Yeah. So you can ask your dad, were these resources that came in, were those enough for him or does he need another resource? Brittany Herzberg: He's. He thought about it and he's like, no, I think. I think that works. Amy Babish: He'll tell you if it's not. So. Brittany Herzberg: Yeah. Amy Babish: I take him at his word. And is there anything else you need to say to him or he needs to say to you? Does he need to ask you for forgiveness? Yeah. Yeah. Brittany Herzberg: He said, I'm sorry and I love you. Amy Babish: Yeah. And don't hold back. Is there anything else you need from him? You need to clarify with him? You need to name with him? Brittany Herzberg: I pretty much said everything. Amy Babish: Yeah. And so do you feel like you forgive him and we can't rush that. So if you. If you didn't, we'd just be like, I'm going to work on it. Brittany Herzberg: No, it feels like the process at least has started. And, like, I do feel more complete with that. Amy Babish: Yeah. And so now you get to take your life back from your dad so you can say to him, thank you for the life that you gave me. Now it's my time to take my life back from you and live on my own terms. I'm ready to be free and find the flow, to trust and to deeply know that I deserve everything that's been waiting for me and receive more than I can imagine and to be in my wholeness and my masculine and feminine and really be able to go with the flow and allow emotions to be in right relationship with me. I'm ready to trust that I'm deserving of things that are mine. That, yes, there's a cycle to the natural progressions of things starting and completing. And I'm alchemizing all the fears that said things can't be mined safely. I'm ready to receive your blessing, dad, and the blessing of this lineage and any ancestral resources that can allow me and my partner to find our. Amy Babish: Our home. We're ready for two levels and three bedrooms and in a price that we can afford that's filled with the comforts that will allow us to work at home and have a family. And if it feels that you're ready, you can say, I'm ready to. I'm ready to have a healthy baby, one that comes to full term and with your work in the world. I'm ready to fully be paid well and to let that accrue and fully move forward in ways that were not available for hundreds and hundreds of years. And anything else you want to name with him and with them as you stand before them. Brittany Herzberg: The one thing he said was, he was like, I want that for you. Amy Babish: Yeah. Yeah. He's giving you his blessing. Yeah. Is there anything else that the ancestral or systemic field wants to share with you or name with you or give to you to be able to move forward? Brittany Herzberg: It feels like they're all lining up, like they support me. Amy Babish: Yeah. Yeah. Feel that. Yeah, Feel that. And see that. Look at their eyes. They've been waiting for you. They've been waiting for this. Amy Babish: Yeah. Yeah. And. And, and allow this to make an imprint on the deepest level of your heart into the most lonely corners that you've been in, the most isolated corners you've been in, allowing it to fill up all of your physical body, your energy body, your emotional body, your intellectual thoughts, your soul, all of your organ systems, all your bones, your nervous system, your womb, your hormones, when you feel complete with them, you can have them behind your back, and then you can turn around and face the beautiful state of Connecticut. Yeah. And just feel into the field and that you are able to receive fully that your. Your home is waiting for you. The soul of your baby is ready to come to you. Amy Babish: And the aligned, divinely selected clients who value you and your expertise and your wisdom and your Britannis are right there, too. Is there anything else? Brittany Herzberg: It feels like a lot. It feels good to me. Amy Babish: So you can say to your ancestors, I'll be back with you when it's time. You're always welcome to send me some miracles and blow my mind and I'm ready. It could start, like, right when we get off this call or even right now or in the midst of it, and. Yeah. I thank them for their courageousness and their willingness and. Yeah. Well, gently start to open your eyes. Take some water. Amy Babish: Yeah. Brittany Herzberg: Oh, man. Amy Babish: How are you? Brittany Herzberg: Good. Feels like a lot. Amy Babish: Yeah. Yeah. There was, you know, almost a thousand years in there, give or take, you know, and that's just one layer, right? Yeah, that's one layer. Brittany Herzberg: Yeah. Amy Babish: So what do you. It's. You're noticing it's a lot. What else are you noticing? What are your questions? What are your thoughts? Brittany Herzberg: No questions. I, I just, I forgot that I even had that scene come to my mind. Amy Babish: Yeah. So when we, you know, you, you messaged me about it and I said, let's do this. That's when it starts. Brittany Herzberg: Yeah. Amy Babish: It doesn't start when we actually have, like, the process is the process. Brittany Herzberg: Yeah. Amy Babish: And I'm so grateful to my capacity to be able to support the process that's beyond a real time, like conversation or process. So the process starts when someone reaches out to me. Brittany Herzberg: Yeah. And I knew that. And I think that happened. It wasn't long after. Amy Babish: Yeah. Brittany Herzberg: And I don't remember if it was. I think it was after I reached out to you and I just got. Got that flash and it was almost like, how about this? Can you handle this one? Amy Babish: Right. Brittany Herzberg: And I remember at the time. Yeah, I remember at the time I was like, okay, if that's it. Okay. All right. Amy Babish: You'Re right. And you're someone who's done a decent. A lot. Yeah. Brittany Herzberg: Yeah. Amy Babish: So how does this compare for you to other processes, other modalities that you've worked with? Brittany Herzberg: Yeah. Well, so you mentioned nlp. That was like, my. I would say my first exposure to anything. Because talk therapy never felt like the right thing. Yes, it was. It was always very body based, which, I mean, history is a massage therapist, which is hilarious. I, um. Brittany Herzberg: Yeah, so I've done nlp. That was more like revisiting my own timeline, my own history. Amy Babish: Yeah. Brittany Herzberg: This was visiting somebody else's. Um, I mean, it's. I would say it's very different. And even, like, hearing you talk to other people on the show, I'm like, I get chill. I've told you, I get chills when I'm listening to the episode that didn't happen today. But I could feel like. I could almost feel like my head was turned. Yes. Brittany Herzberg: To the right. The whole time I was like, okay, we're talking to them. Yeah. It just feels very deep and powerful and impactful. Not just for me and not just for the way back ancestor, but the whole line. Yeah, the whole line just feels very transformative and like, it's like intense for that moment. And then it's like. Because I've just been feeling like this tether almost like yanking me back. Brittany Herzberg: It's like, okay, I'll take a couple steps. And then like, we're here. Amy Babish: Yeah, we're. We're not done here yet. It's like, not like I have some other things. I have bone. And. And it's. And that's the wildest thing, is that it's hidden in plain sight. Brittany Herzberg: Yeah. Amy Babish: You don't like, you're like, okay, I'm in this diminishing return. Like, no matter what I do with my business, Things are going away. It's like, this is different than your childhood where you have to move, move, move, move, move. But it's like the same energy of no matter what I do, if something's not stable. Brittany Herzberg: Yeah. So it was wild to see how similar things were between me and her. And actually I remember because I was 15 when I had the miscarriage. And I remember at the time I was like, you know, the baby is wanted and. But I didn't tell anyone, didn't go to a doctor, didn't do anything. And I was. I have migraines and I wasn't even taking Excedrin. Migraine. Brittany Herzberg: I'm like, doing all the right things and like, okay, this is probably going to be hard, but, like, I'll figure it out. And I. I kind of vaguely remember having the thought of, like, all right, if this isn't the right time, or if this isn't supposed to be like, okay. And almost to the point where I was like, did that cause. Right. Did that cause the soul to leave? Almost like what she had experienced. Amy Babish: Yeah. Brittany Herzberg: Yeah. Amy Babish: So you were also entangled with the experience of sexual assault? Brittany Herzberg: Well, it wasn't the sexual assault. It was someone. I was a willing participant. However, it was like false information. Amy Babish: Oh, I'm sorry. Brittany Herzberg: Yeah, yeah. Amy Babish: And that could have been her lived experience too. Brittany Herzberg: Right. Amy Babish: So it's just like sliding doors when it's like. Yeah, we think it's little 15 year old me. Brittany Herzberg: Yeah. Amy Babish: And that's the exact. Like, you saw her late teens, early 20s. So even that similarity. Brittany Herzberg: Yeah, yeah. Amy Babish: It's like, it can be that sometimes it's apples to apples. It's like literally that ex. Sometimes it's like we're entangled with a man when we're a woman sometimes. You know, it's not always apples to apples, but I can hear how similar that was for you. Brittany Herzberg: Yeah. And like, she didn't even show me her family. Amy Babish: Yeah. Brittany Herzberg: It's like they're not even really around, so, like. Amy Babish: Yeah. It's like this is. This is actually what I need help with. Brittany Herzberg: Mm. Amy Babish: Yeah. Brittany Herzberg: Yeah. Wild. Amy Babish: It's. It's wild and, you know, really, like, moving forward, like, integration of this process. It's like calling on the big, big, big, giant tree. Brittany Herzberg: Yeah. Amy Babish: Flowers. Seeing all the ancestors slide down the slide to you. Like, go on a slide and be like, let's, y' all, let's. I need all. All hands on deck. We're gonna go on the side and we come down the side. We're finding the house, we're coming down the slide to welcome in the new clients. We're coming down the slide to get the soul of the baby who's coming in. Brittany Herzberg: So she's been hanging around for a while. I actually know her name and everything. Amy Babish: Oh, yeah. So you can say to them, like, this is what. I need your help. I need your help with this. And, you know, these resources will be robust and abundant. Brittany Herzberg: And. Amy Babish: Like, this can be. This can be it for some people, for some clients, like, this is the layer that's like the cog in the wheel. And as it integrates, if another layer comes up, that's when we know that there's more work to do. So it might be like, oh, I feel so much flow. Like, I got pregnant, Amy, and my business is slowing, but we still can't find the house. So whatever that looks like, not just for you, but for people listening. When I offer constellation work, it's oftentimes there's many, many, many layers. I attract fascinating, complex humans who come from fascinating, complex ancestries. Amy Babish: And so I actually made a decision, which I haven't even told you about yet, which is I'm moving from 90 minute sessions to packages, because I think that people oftentimes need more than one constellation with me. Brittany Herzberg: I think that's smart. Yeah. Amy Babish: And I think that for people who've worked with me in the past, they can get a 90 minute session as a tune up after their package is done. And I think that that's the right. The right move, because over the past month, from being in South Africa to doing the retreats at my house, I was like, oh, yeah, that's. We need to pivot in that way. More robust support. Brittany Herzberg: Yeah, I could see that. Because. Yeah, I mean, it's very complex. Amy Babish: It's very complex and layered. And because the. The entanglements are hidden in plain sight. Like, we. We worked through two today, which is unique. Your dad was very, very willing. Brittany Herzberg: I know. Which is surprising. I know that it's like the soul. Amy Babish: But it's still just, like, on a soul level. It's astounding that your dad did that. Brittany Herzberg: Mm. Amy Babish: And some people's parents on a soul level need all hands on deck and a whole other process. So even though we knew it was your paternal lineage, sometimes it just doesn't. The flow was flowing. The slide was sliding. Like, it was like, we are ready for this. For the. For Brittany, y' all. Let's. Amy Babish: Let's do this. Sorry, I'm, like, a little lispy. I have a new Invisalign train. I'm extra lispy this week. So sorry, listeners. This. What's happening here. Um, so, you know, to really, like, really just be with that and let it, like, spend some time every day with that. Brittany Herzberg: Mm. Amy Babish: Like, you have many. You have many processes, and this is like, to be with those resources and just ask, like, I'm ready to receive. Like, what's my next step? What's my lead? You're welcome to magnetize. Help me magnetize those things. What? Like, let's let the pollen of the meadow flowers, like, just send it out to all the meadows in. In. In Connecticut. I don't know if the flowers are blooming yet. Brittany Herzberg: Where they are. Amy Babish: Yeah, like, yeah, it's cold up there and it's May when we're recording this, so. I know. Brittany Herzberg: Go figure. It's bizarre. Amy Babish: Yeah. It's like the flower. Like, just ask the flower, like, Mycelium Network. You can ask the flower network throughout all time and space to do that for you too. Brittany Herzberg: Perfect. I will be doing that. Amy Babish: There. Any other questions? Any other. Any other things you want to name? Brittany Herzberg: No, I'm just, like, so, so grateful, and it's. I had a feeling it was gonna be more than one. I didn't know what it was gonna be, and I was actually pretty shocked when we got to my dad. It's like, oh, okay. Amy Babish: Didn't see that one coming. Brittany Herzberg: Didn't see it coming. But, yeah, I'm just so grateful because I knew that there was something here. I was like, amy. Amy Babish: Yeah, we gotta work on this. We gotta work on that. Brittany Herzberg: So thank you. Amy Babish: Thank you. And for those of you who are listening, I hope that this is soul food. No matter what you're navigating any of the themes that we touched on today, from being in full flow of our femininity, to receiving, to trusting, to feeling deserving, to navigating pregnancy, to navigating having a stable, comfortable home to. To having more flow in our business when we show up bigger. Whatever layer that is for you, I hope that you deeply received. And if you'd like to work with me, go to my website and fill out the application and we will be in touch if it's a great match. Until the next time, I send infinite blessings from the Doeg land that I steward, and looking forward to having you listen to future episodes. Thank you.