Grief Kept Them From Being Their Full Selves

“I see how this is his—not mine.”

For the second week in a row, my guest is joining me from the southern hemisphere!

Emma and I connected almost six weeks ago. It was clear then just as it felt very clear during our call that we're going to be in the constellation process. 

At the beginning of this session, Emma presenced that she wanted to step into her full power, full authenticity, and to be open to the potential for bringing more joy into her life!

I could feel with Emma’s systemic field there were some ancestors that were very open to miracles. I could strongly feel their longing for things to shift because they had carried the hyper-responsibility, too—and they're exhausted.

You’ll especially want to tune into this client session if you, too:

» have a deep sense of over responsibility and overworking

» you get sick when you’re just about to break through to the next level

» you don’t yet feel free and safe to be your most authentic self

» want to be making fewer choices and more in trust

» give and take is out of balance

Topics covered in this podcast episode:

• What starts happening with the systemic field as you start sharing during these sessions

• How Amy knows it’s time to do a constellation session with someone

• What the systemic field is made of

• What an entanglement is

• What to look for in a good constellator

• What information you may get during the tune in process

• How you can be entangled with an ancestor

• What it means when an ancestor doesn’t know they’re dead

• How much information is helpful to share during a constellation session

• What it actually looks like to be entangled

• Types of alchemical resources

• How the resources actually work in the systemic field

• How many stones can be used in stone medicine

This is the most stone medicine I’ve ever brought into a podcast constellation session! We sensed so many seemingly disconnected moments, memories, and resources are actually connections brought together beautifully in this conversation.

This is such a good episode to listen to—especially if you’ve done all you can do! When we get to that point, it means it’s likely not ours. Which is great because that’s low hanging fruit that we can easily work with in a constellation session.

Thank you for joining us and being a part of this alchemical constellation journey!

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Until we meet again, I'm sending so much love from the Doeg land I steward.

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The unedited podcast transcript for this episode of The Soulful Visionary Podcast follows

Amy Babish: Have you ever felt like there's something more just waiting to be unlocked in your life? Like no matter how much you've accomplished, a deeper potential is calling. Welcome to the Soulful Visionary Podcast, where I guide you to align with your authentic self and create a life of purpose, love and lasting impact. A life where you can truly soar beyond what your mind can comprehend. I'm your host, Amy Babish, a licensed psychotherapist and an expert in somatic coaching, feng shui and wisdom traditions. With over 20 years of experience guiding thousands of clients through soul level transformation. Each week we'll dive into potent practices, live client sessions, and insightful conversations to help you dissolve intergenerational patterns and transcend your upper limits so that you can live the big life you're meant to live. Tune in and let's unlock your inner wisdom together. Welcome to the Soulful Visionary Podcast. Amy Babish: I'm your host, Amy Babish, and today we have a wonderful guest for the second week in a row from the southern hemisphere. So welcome in Emma. Last week's guest was also from the southern hemisphere, so I'm on a roll with that right now. So we always start with intentions. So we were just talking before we got on, and she's like, I don't remember what I wrote down on my form. I'm like, that's perfect. We're going to just start with what's. What's here. Amy Babish: So in your own words, what would you. What would you like to work on today. Emma: Really? I suppose stepping into my full power, my full authenticity, and really to open up the potential to bring more joy and fun and those sort of things into my life while also having, you know, being in my full power. So I suppose, fulfilling my great greatness, whatever that means. Amy Babish: Hey. So I take notes, I mute myself when I'm typing, so that way everyone doesn't have to hear my incentive incessant, like note taking. Because when we start to do this process, it's as if I'm taking dictation from your systemic field. So it's. Even though you're the one who's talking, the field is talking through you. And when I do this work, we really work with how do we land the intention? So if you had, if you were in your full power with authenticity, you had the potential for more joy and also fulfilling your greatness, what would that actually physically look like or feel like for you? Emma: So I feel like I am like 3/4 of the way through this process. Um, so I already have a good idea of how it feels. But a large part of it is putting down the weight. So putting down the weight of responsibility, it's feeling more just present still in the moment. It's trusting the path. Like really just trusting whatever my next step is in front of me. It feels like a still, quiet mind. It feels like a full heart, feels like joy, playfulness. Emma: I even have this experience from when I was a child where I really felt this way. And it's really the way I love to language it. It's like being in the magic of life, you know, so having the wisdom that I have, having been on the planet for, you know, 50 years already, yet also embodying the childlike wonder of life and the magic and the playfulness and the joy and the love and. And I really feel there's this. This other layer around freedom and sovereignty and not having to work for those things. Like actually just really embodying them, knowing them at a cellular level. And obviously my soul knows that. That at a cellular level. Emma: But it's like every protection mechanism, all the things that all the armor. I mean, I don't have a lot of armor now, but it's really like feeling free to be me and safe. You know, safe energetically, emotionally, relationally, whatever the word is. Within life in the 3D reality, but also within, you know, time and space and the quantum itself. That's a lot. Amy Babish: You are right on track. I love it. So, you know, when. When people come to me, they have a lot of both ands, so they're really here on Earth. And then they also have some kind of connection to something bigger than themselves. And sometimes they might call it the quantum field. Sometimes they might call it the bees and the trees. Sometimes it might be chocolate, Sometimes it might be being a starseed or lightworker. Amy Babish: So everything and everything is welcome here. When you like, really feel into. Almost like this would land differently in your life, like I heard you say, not having to work for it, would any choices be different or just be more like. Of an embodied sense or like a knowing. Emma: So the question would any choices be different? Is a really poignant one right now for me. Because the choice choices that would be different would come from a place of feeling fully supported. So I often say, like, I feel fully supported by the universe. I feel fully supported by something greater than me. I feel fully supported in my business. I feel fully supported in my friendships. I even feel fully supported by my children. And at the same time, I am so conscious that I am the head of my business, the head of my family. Emma: The head of my wealth, the head of my whatever, you know, you name it. I'm at the top of my tree. Now obviously God, universe, Source is much bigger than that. However, the choices being different, I would actually make less choices. I would be less driven by the responsibility to my children, my team, my audience, my clients, my friends, my family, like whatever. And I would be more in trust. I would be more in the, this place of, you know, the way I show up authentically as myself is enough. And everything else is being taken care of. Emma: That responsibility is equally shared between all things and all people. Amy Babish: Okay, it's starting to get real juicy. I appreciate, I appreciate the specificity because I think that a lot of people that come, you know, come to me and that listen and people who don't know me are, are, are of this experience where whatever the unconscious loyalties are, they are, they have an awareness of the support of something bigger than themselves. But when it comes down to the, the nuts and bolts of it, it is really falls on their shoulders. So I feel like we're in, in the territory that maybe we can do some deeper work. So I'm going to talk you through. We're going to do a constellation. That's. It feels very clear that we're going to be in the constellation process and we had a brief talk almost six weeks ago. Amy Babish: So I'll just refresh us because I don't expect you to be a student of our pre conversation. So I know it's time to do a constellation. When someone has really done a lot like they, they've journeyed with it, they've sat with it, they've worked it out and then it's just, there's something that's just not budging. And I can hear when you're speaking, you. Like you said, I've done three quarter, like three quarters of this is already sorted. But for you, the last quarter of it is just, it just is what it is. And that's the perfect time to do a constellation because oftentimes there is literally nothing else that you could do differently. There's nothing else that you could think differently about. Amy Babish: There's no nlp, there's no mindset work, there's no mantra. It is literally not up to you to shift the systemic shit. So that's how I know that we're in the right place. And the field, your systemic field, that means everything that comes before you both, blood lineage, past lives, all of your guides, ancestors, angels, everything like that is your systemic field. The planets, whatever, whatever that is. And it could be your home, everything, right? So all of that starts to organize around your intention. So the intention is what creates the guardrails around it, versus, like, a free for all of. Like, well, we have all these unfinished business to do through you, Ms. Amy Babish: Emma. It's like we're only gonna. We're only gonna work with what is most supportive to you today. And then the way that we kind of find the specificity of where it is in your system is through what we call the entanglements. So the entanglements are the unfinished business of our. Of our lineages. And so Em and I don't know each other so well, so I don't know her lineage so well. So I'm not sure where we're going to head. Amy Babish: But we will go in with the awareness that there are people in your lineage or beings in your lineage that want to help. And so we're not leaving it up to the people or the beings that are entangled with you. So it's not just we would kind of go back and repeat history if we just kept on going only to the person or the people or the beings that this kind of like, where does this belong? Who does this belong to? And it will be most likely an alchemical process. So we will go in and find out kind of where it belongs to, and then we will find out more about that person or that being, and then we will get them some resources, and the resources will also benefit you, and then we'll see what's next. So there'll probably be many layers, and sometimes the systemic field needs more than one resource. And if anything I say doesn't make sense or you're like, that doesn't work for me, Amy, you just tell me, so there will be no hurting of my feelings or anything like that. And if there's any jargon, you just say, like, I don't understand what that means, or if I'm speaking in American slang, you just give it to me straight. Do you have any questions? Emma: No. I'm excited. And I. I just. I think the big thing for me is, what's interesting about what you just said is if there's. If there's this thing that hasn't shifted, it's me taking too much responsibility. And often when I look at my parents, the role I took with my parents was I took a lot of responsibility. So where I've done a lot of healing around them, this particular issue was not their issue. Emma: You know, they were taking too much responsibility. So I'm intrigued and excited. Amy Babish: Yeah. I've chilled when you say that. And it almost feels like your parents are like, thank goodness we're off the hook for this one. Emma: Yeah, yeah. Amy Babish: I can feel their energy around that. So it's like we just come to. I come with humility and I come with curiosity and I don't come with knowing. I don't come with I have the answers. That's how you know you're with a good constellator, a solid constellator, whereas in other modalities you want, you know, like a medical doctor to have the answers. You want a nutritionist to know what to eat or not eat. But with a consulator, I'm staying behind the questions. And in wisdom traditions we would say I'm stay, I'm staying behind the medicine. Amy Babish: So I come in with knowing that your system has the answers, your systemic field has the answers and they are open to shifting things. And I would say I can feel very strongly with, with your systemic field there are some, some ancestors way back wherever this is, that are open to miracles because I can feel their longing for this to shift because they have carried the over responsibility too and they're exhausted. So we will go in and our next step is to do a tune in. And so the tune in is like different modalities would call this different names for it, but we're basically going to use the radio dial of your systemic field and tune into your intention. And so you might get images, you might get music, you might get sounds, you might get colors. We're both going to tune in and then I'm going to ask you about your tune in so that we we're going to get kind of, you know, puzzle pieces of where we're locating in your systemic field. So that's our next step. So we'll just close our eyes and just take some breaths together and really opening to also it feels important to name specifically for your field that no one will be shamed, no one will be judged. Amy Babish: We're not here to like find people out and like kind of have like gotcha. Those are not words that are my words. But that feels important to say to your field. It's really coming with. You need their help, we need their help and we can bring the help it And Emma, whenever you have what you have, you can just let me know. Take your time. Emma: Well, my mind can tend on the busy side and often takes me a while for it to calm down. But the simple message that I got straight away was just like I could feel it in my gut and the word overwork just showed up. That's all I got. Amy Babish: And this is, you know, this is such a potent experience because overwork and your mind is busy. I. I have a strong sense that you're entangled with this person's mind. Emma: So we can, that would make sense. Amy Babish: We can be entangled with their, their patterns of their neurology, all kinds of things. It's very, very nuanced. Would you like to know what I got? Emma: Yes, please. Amy Babish: Okay. So I got right away my lower back hurt and like right around my kidneys and my sacrum. And I asked like, who am I standing with? And I am with a woman who's giving birth and we are in a cave. And I felt like we are about 700 years ago. And I asked, where are we? And I could feel we were somewhere in the north of Europe. And so what I got was that we're. It's not called Ireland at this time, but it's the land of Ireland. So. Amy Babish: Yeah, you're smiling. What do you notice as I say this? Emma: Just because I have lineage that goes back to Ireland, and I'm at a place where I'm changing back to my maiden name, and the lineage of that name is back in Ireland. Amy Babish: Okay. So we presence them and when we, when we start to do the tune in, it doesn't mean like it's exactly this person, but they're, they're connected. So the busyness and overwork feels like we're like in the plumb line of it. Whereas mine might be something that's interconnected, but not specifically it. So our next step is to start to fine tune where does this live in your lineage? And so for this, we're going to go kind of person by person and ask them do they carry this sense of over responsibility and overworking? And even though, you know, intellectually and your lived experience says, my parents didn't have this, we just ask them out of, like, respect. And so we're presencing their essence or their true self, but not like the person that you knew in your, in your lived experience with them. Does that land when I say that? Emma: Yeah, but I would say both of them overworked in their own way. For sure. Amy Babish: Yeah. Emma: So. Amy Babish: So we're, we're gonna, we're gonna go in and ask them, and if they both say yes, we're gonna do something different. But if one of them says, like, do you carry this sense of over responsibility, of like, it all falls on your shoulders? We want to go to the nuance. Emma: Of I Already know where I'm going because you speak. I can feel it already. Amy Babish: Yeah, tell me, tell me. Emma: It's. It's definitely dad's side. Amy Babish: Okay. And that's the Irish side. Emma: Yeah, yeah, there we go. Well, there's. There's actually other lineage, like other nationalities before it gets back to Irish. But yes, it's that side. Amy Babish: Okay. Dad's line. Okay. So what we're going to do is we're going to kind of go into the lineage and we're going to ask person by person, and if it becomes a little bit like the hall of mirrors, you're gonna let me know and we'll do another tune in. Because I don't wanna spend our whole time asking, you know, 500 people because. Emma: I've already got the next step. Yeah, already got, like my dad's dad. Okay. Definitely 100. Amy Babish: Okay. Emma: He died of a heart attack because he worked too hard. Amy Babish: Okay. And you can ask. Also ask his wife. So your grandmother. Because we're going to go. It doesn't necessarily mean it's all going to be men. So sometimes it will go back and forth. Emma: So she thinks she overworked, but my feeling is that she didn't. Amy Babish: Okay. Emma: Which is another pattern. Amy Babish: Okay. Emma: That's a different pattern, though. It's definitely dad, then papa. Amy Babish: And so you ask papa's dad, your great grandfather. Emma: I get a no. Amy Babish: Okay. And ask your great grandmother, his wife. Emma: I get a yes. Amy Babish: Okay. And ask her, did this pattern start with her? Emma: No. Amy Babish: Okay. So we're going to go to her parents and ask both of them. So your great great. Emma: Yes on the male side. No on the female side. Amy Babish: So you'll ask your great great grandfather, did this pattern start with you? Emma: Yes. Amy Babish: Okay. And so we're gonna. We're gonna start to have a conversation with him. And so you're gonna ask him, or you're gonna say, you know, I'm your great great granddaughter and I live somewhere far away from. From what you know. And what happens when you introduce yourself. Emma: It feels like. Well, it feels like family, but it also feels like he was. He felt he was in competition with another sibling. Amy Babish: Okay. And do you have that too? Emma: No. Amy Babish: Okay. Do you have that with someone who is like a sibling but not blood? Emma: No. Amy Babish: Okay. Did you have that with your ex husband? Emma: Yes, perhaps. Amy Babish: Okay. Emma: Okay. So I'm overthinking it, so maybe that's okay. Amy Babish: It is a yes. I'm checking too. I'm checking too. Yeah. Yeah. So sometimes, even though it might show up with blood in that ancestor's Lifetime. We will. The entanglement will show up someplace else another way. Amy Babish: So we're going to ask your great grandfather, does he. Does he know he's dead? Emma: I got. Amy Babish: No, Yeah, I got that, too. So when an ancestor doesn't know they're dead, it's usually means they died tragically. So we're going to ask him what were the circumstances of his life. I'm wondering if this. The hunger's involved, if any kind of, like, war is involved, because this would be around that time, historically. Emma: I'm not really getting anything, but I feel sick. Yeah, Like, I feel nauseous, like, so. Amy Babish: You can ask him, you know, was there some kind of illness going around or does he even remember being sick? Emma: I just got. No. No. Amy Babish: Okay, so he doesn't remember dying. So we're going to let him know that he actually is dead. And this is the year 2025. Emma: I feel shock. Amy Babish: Yeah. Yeah. So you can let him know. And he can hear me too. But it's helpful because you're his blood relative, to let him know that you are here because you are carrying out his unlived destiny of everything falls on your shoulders, no matter. No matter what you do. And that we're here because we're gonna get him some help, and we also are going to get you help and see if he's amenable to that. Emma: Yep. Amy Babish: Okay. So ask him in terms of his, like, hyper responsibility. Oh, you're smiling. What's happening? Emma: Well, I just noticed another pattern of mine, but we just high fived like, okay, let's do this. Amy Babish: Yeah. Emma: Yeah. Amy Babish: Is there another pattern you want to. You want to present? Because it's very helpful to see how. Emma: Interwoven these things are when I get really overwhelmed, when it's a lot on my shoulders. And funnily enough, today I'm feeling this is. And I've identified this pattern for years and worked on it, is that I get sick. Like, I get sick when. When, like, maybe I'm just about to break through to the next level in a positive way. Or I get sick when it all gets too much. And I'm not saying it's too much. Like, and it's like we just recognize that in each other. Emma: It's almost like he didn't realize he died because it's just a pattern he would run to, just get a breather from everything or the other piece that's kind of coming through that I think is really fascinating. It's the pattern that he'd run, like, because there's this like, dynamic between success. Like, God, I really want that thing. I want to go to that. That next level. I want that next level for me. But it equally feels like, oh, but God, like the responsibility for not just me, but others that that will entail. Like, right now, my. Emma: Like, I feel sick. Yep. So it's this real conundrum between, like, God, I really want to go to this next level. My soul wants me to go here. But then I also have this really heavy feeling of the next level of responsibility. And yeah, it's like the sickness is this pattern that kind of, I don't know, like, just gets in the way. And it's, it's. It's trying to serve, but it's not serving, if that makes sense. Emma: Yes. Amy Babish: Yes. So you can say to him, I belong to your double bind. I belong to your longing to keep on achieving, succeeding, and the price you paid by getting sick because you didn't know how to solve for this. Yeah. And for you, Emma, to understand what this looks like is that when we are entangled, it's not just the patterns. It's that our life force is literally going backwards to this ancestor. Emma: Yeah. Right. Amy Babish: So it's, it's. It's. It's not just that you have like, the rubber band effect of what his. His actual lived experience happens in your actual life. Like sliding doors. Like, everything's going to be same, same around this. When it's not this. You don't have this. Amy Babish: So when you're in the entanglement, you. You can smell food like he smells. You see people like he sees people. Your thoughts are like his. And now, now we know nausea and sickness. Emma: Stop it. Amy Babish: I'm telling you. Emma: So whenever I run this pattern. Amy Babish: I. Emma: Want to eat potato chips. And I always. I often just sit down and eat potato chips. And I think, like, that's crazy because if you know the, like, the heritage of potatoes and the Irish, like, I'm like, ask. That's crazy. Amy Babish: Say, were potato chips. I don't know if potato chips were. Emma: Around back then, but no, they probably weren't. Amy Babish: But you tell them how great they are, you'd probably be jealous of that. I'm enjoying it on your behalf. Emma: Yeah, he. He loves potato. Amy Babish: Yeah. Emma: That's weird. This is one of those am I just making this up? Moments. It's crazy. Amy Babish: Yeah. You can say I am loyal to your love of potatoes. Yeah. So it's not, you know, there are gifts and there are challenges that are in the entanglements. So it's not all bad things. Like Potato chip when you want it is different than a compulsion to eat them when you're in this, in the cycle. Right? Emma: Yeah. Amy Babish: So we're gonna ask him now, did he have any kind of resources when he was alive that he went to, to try and deal with this? Emma: Like, for some people, he was the leader. Amy Babish: Anything. Like, did he go to land? Did he have a special hangout? Did he, was he religious? Yeah. Emma: So I, I just see him, maybe it's like farming, you know, like, but it actually looks like wealth. He looks like wealth. Okay. It looks like farming. Like, I don't think they would have had gumboots back then, but I'm seeing that and I'm seeing him walking the land. Okay. Amy Babish: Yeah. So, so you can ask him, did you can, did you connect with the land to try and work this out in you? Emma: Yes, he would, he would go to go, go out to the land to think. Amy Babish: Yeah, yeah. And he, yeah, say more. What's happening? Emma: No, I just think it's crazy because I, I, I would say the challenge I had, the thing that I'm working through right now is to let go when I'm in those spaces. Like, I can feel that feeling he gets then when he goes to the land to walk the land. And I do the same. I've always been a walker. Like, I like to walk and I work things out, but I've got to this place in my evolution where I don't want to think anymore. And even this morning I was sitting there just trying to release the thoughts. Like, just, I don't need to be thinking. Like, it doesn't need. Emma: I've worked out, I don't need to work it out. You know, like, I just want to let go of the thoughts. So I was just giggling in the whole, like, wow, I see how this, this is his, not mine. Amy Babish: That's right. That's right. So I'm going to check, we're going to start to bring in a resource and let me see what kind of resource we need. We do need an alchemical resource so you and he can go into your shared systemic field and see if an alchemical resource comes to mind. If not, I will, I will help tune in a little bit more. Emma: What, what is an alchemical resource? Amy Babish: This is a great, this is a great question, Emma. So anything that alchemizes, anything that compost, anything that dissolves, it could be anything spiritual, it could be sulfur, it could be like something like metaphysical. It could be a deity. Oh, you're smiling. Tell me more. Emma: Because a girlfriend gave Me a. A crystal which is actually sulfur. And I remember being like, ah. Like, I don't know whether to be like, isn't that bad for you? Like, and she's like, no, it's, it's. I think she actually said it's about alchemy. And. And I'm like, it's breaking me out. It just like, again, you can't make these things up. Emma: Like, these things come into our life. Yeah. Amy Babish: So elk. So the. We call this the pre field. So we said that we were going to do this a while ago, and then we had the conversation six weeks ago. And so I don't know when she gave it to you, but the pre field started whenever she gave it to you because it's in the constellation. Emma: Yeah. And she actually gave me another bracelet that has it in it. And literally, as I look up to the left hand side of the screen, I can see it just sitting there, like, just crazy. Amy Babish: Yeah. And you have. Behind you, you have these beautiful yellow books. And. And sulfur is bright yellow. So I feel like it's on both sides of you. So sulfur is from many different wisdom traditions. It is a stone, is the alchemical stone. Amy Babish: There are other alchemical stones, but it is used with transmutation, not just transformation. So to change something like this into something completely different, it is. It is a transmutational stone. Emma: I think it's. The other thing that I think is so fascinating is how hard I resisted it. The stone itself, like, I remember at the time, like, this isn't just. This is something else because I'm resisting it hard, you know, like, and wherever there's resistance, it's like, that's where I've got to lean in. But it felt really uncomfortable. So, yeah. Amy Babish: Welcome to everyone who ever wants to work with me. They're like, oh, I really think I need to work with you, but I'm gonna resist it. Like, it's my job. So I know about. I know about this. This. This is a deep. A deep, like, push and pull within you. Amy Babish: And I'm sure he had that too. I'm sure he had that. He resisted. Emma: I think, like, as soon as you say that the shared thing, or perhaps the thing that I got from him is it's that whole, like, if I fully surrender the resistance and it doesn't go in my favor, and perhaps this is where it ended for him, then who takes care of everyone and everything else. Amy Babish: Yeah. Emma: And perhaps this is even what happened to him. That he on some level, fully surrendered. And then. And maybe that's why he doesn't know he's dead because it didn't go that way. And then he's still trying to take responsibility for his mistake. And his mistake was potentially, you know, dying unexpectedly. Amy Babish: So that's. I would say what I'm getting is that's the confusion he carries. Yeah, that's the confusion he carries. So we're going to invite in. We're going to invite in the. The consciousness of sulfur. So it's going to come into your awareness and his awareness, and it will come in physically. Emma: You're smiling because I'm. I'm like. I'm half expecting to smell rotten eggs anytime soon. You know, like, you might. Amy Babish: You might. He might need that to know it's real. So everybody's systems feel it in different ways. Some people kind of just get a sensation of it. Sometimes we see it, sometimes we smell it, sometimes we taste. Will come in whatever way your consciousness needs to receive it, and his too. So we're going to invite the alchemical resource of sulfur, the consciousness of sulfur, to come in and start to alchemize and specifically transmute the consciousness of confusion, of overwork and over responsibility, and the double bind of not being able to break through to another level without becoming overwhelmed or getting sick. Emma: Yeah. I feel like I can feel a sensation, almost like a gentle bubbling in my nose. I can like it. It's like smell is on the tip of my nose. Yeah. I also feel like it's like it's burning away. Amy Babish: Yes. Emma: The old. It's. It's like the fog, the confusion, the entanglement. Amy Babish: Yeah. Sulfur has a lot of heat, and it works in the core of things. So in alchemy, it's at the center. In Taoism, it's at the center. It's in digestion. It is at the center of a home business, and you can use in any kind of way. And we're using. At the center of consciousness between you and your great, great grandfather in Ireland, and it's still working. Amy Babish: What do you notice in him? Emma: I actually can feel a sense of relief in him, to be honest. Yeah. Amy Babish: Yeah. And what do you notice in yourself after you notice that in him? Emma: Well, obviously, before you hit record, I said, I'm not feeling great today. I'm feeling a bit. I feel better. I feel like the nausea is not there anymore, but maybe it'll come back, like, whatever. I actually feel freer, lighter. I think I do still feel this. I feel something across my shoulders, which is where I carry the responsibility, obviously. Amy Babish: Yep, yep. That's Where. That's where. And other work that I do. It's the developmental patterns. That's the pattern of. That we call holding up. And that's the pattern where betrayal and self betrayal of and. Emma: Yep, betrayal's a big thing. Amy Babish: I can feel it in your upper right shoulder. She's taking a sip of something and. Emma: She stopped taking a sip because my right shoulder, I am, I would say, nearly there, but I've been healing my right. Right shoulder for, I'm gonna say about six months now. Amy Babish: So the right side of the body. And you know, this is never all or nothing, but it's the masculine. Emma: Yep, absolutely. Amy Babish: And so this is. This is the paternal side. And I get that this is part of your great grandfather's. He also was betrayed. Emma: Yeah. And that makes me want to just burst into tears, like. Amy Babish: Yeah. Emma: Yeah. I think that's the betrayal piece has really been a really challenging thing for me in this lifetime. You know, like, I'm so close to. To love and kindness. Like, I'm a really genuinely loving, kind person. So we see the world as we are, not as it is. So especially as a child and even as an adult, I would be so hurt by the way people would treat each other, let alone the way they would treat me. The awful words that they would say, the things that they would do, like, I can't. Emma: I can't handle people hurting people. I can't handle people hurting animals or children. It just. It really, really hurts. So betrayal. And a different of mine actually said once, my biggest wound that I brought in from other lifetimes is this distrust that comes from deep betrayal. And, yeah, I'm really tired of carrying around that burden of this low grade assumption that people will betray me. Amy Babish: Yeah. Emma: And it's just. I just had a situation recently where it happened and I could. I was watching the pattern play out and yeah, I just. I just want to let it go. I don't want. I mean, I don't want to be betrayed anymore, but I also, Yeah, I just want to let it go. It's. It's awful. Emma: It's funny. I've not felt that deep hurt of betrayal that I felt as a kid for the longest time until now. So I think it's that peace, like. And maybe this is part of his as well. Like, on the outside, I'm strong and fierce, and people. I think people just assume they can do and say anything to me because I'll be all right. Yet at the same time, I'm the softest, kindest, most loving human, and every hit Hurts. Every unkind tone, like, because I don't miss a trick, you know, like, every dismissal. Emma: Yeah. Like, I've built so much armor not to feel that. But I'm at this point in my life where my spiritual growth is more important, which means I have to. I have to just be this big squishy heart, all of me not, you know, without the armor. And it's definitely. Okay. So desperately. And desperate is the right word. Emma: Desperately want to let it go. And it's that. That contradiction of. But if I let it go, is it gonna hurt? Are people gonna hurt me like that again? You know, And I consciously know. I know in my mind that when I. That the people can't hurt me. You know, when I'm fully embodied in love, people can't hurt me. But there is still my inner child. Emma: That's like. But, yeah, that can hurt. So, yeah, that's where I'm at. Amy Babish: Thank you for being. Emma: Didn't see that coming. You didn't see that coming. Amy Babish: Right, right, right. The system. The system is letting us know this is all related. And I. I do get. This is actually not. I'm double checking. This is not inner child stuff. Amy Babish: This is. This is also related to your great grandfather. Yeah. It might feel like it doesn't mean that your inner child doesn't deserve the tlc, but you can ask him, do you also carry this, like, immense betrayal? Emma: Yes. Amy Babish: Yeah. Yeah. Emma: So I can feel he just. And he's like. He's just. I just worked and worked and worked for others. I provided, I protected. I just went over and above always. And people just took and took and took until there was nothing left. Amy Babish: Yeah. So he is also in this double bind of being who he is, being a prolific outputter, and then. And then being taken advantage of and not having the reciprocity of, like, the given, given, give and take is out of balance. Emma: Yeah. Amy Babish: So the give and take is out of balance. And there's also another layer of that. That's. That's a big thing. But then the betrayal is, like, really sideways. And he. He says we don't have to know the specifics of his betrayal. And so let me see what's next. Amy Babish: I'm feeling into what resource we name what we need next. So we're going to. You have a question? I could see your eyes going to the side. Okay. Emma: No, I just am putting pieces together in my head. Amy Babish: Yeah. Yeah. This can really bring a lot together that has seemed seemingly disconnected. So we are going to ask for an activating resource. And this resource is going to activate rather than armor healthy boundaries. And we're also going. Let me see if I can. We can add another thing into this. Amy Babish: We're going to activate the resonant field for both of you. Of recipe of true reciprocity. That's a big smile. Emma: Just because it's a massive theme in my life. Equality is a huge theme in my life. Like literally could be one of the biggest themes for my lifetime. So then that's what you're talking about. It's about the give and take. It's about the fairness. It's about the fair, you know. Yeah. Emma: So it just makes a lot of sense. It's. It's like, you know, I know the roadmap that I came in with and some of the biggest themes of this roadmap is equality. So it just makes a lot of sense. Amy Babish: We're on the right. We're on the right path. And with. With the nuance of. Let me see if we. I'm seeing if we can say this. Whatever, whatever precipitated him having that path of needing the lessons around betrayal that that will be activated in terms of whatever the deeper medicine is. Because you have definitely tried. Amy Babish: I done your very bestest in this lifetime to get like I got it. Message understood. But it still even just came up recently with this friend. So the deeper awareness of like resonating at a vibration consciously and unconsciously that you can dial into that says I only my, my. My minimum standard is reciprocity and equality. I, I am not entertaining friends, acquaintances, clients, people I pay money to, anybody in my life that doesn't resonate at that anymore. Emma: Yeah. Amy Babish: And for your great grandfather, your great great grandfather, whatever in his systemic field, we can't change history for him, but whatever needs to be like completed for him that he doesn't have to live in agony around those betrayals and the lack of give and take, that. That will be resolved in the way it needs to be resolved for him in this afterlife. And let's see. Let's see what the activating resources. Does anything come through for you in terms of. Emma: Yeah, just. No, not yet. But the one thing that keeps coming through just. Amy Babish: Yes. Emma: I wasn't gonna say anything but like it keeps coming is it's that. That his betrayal is around family. Yep. And that's. That's a lot of where. Where my betrayal is too. Amy Babish: And I have like burning in the back of my heart chakra. Burning. Emma: It is. Amy Babish: It's his. His back. It's on fire. And so our back body is the unconscious self, and not just like our unconscious self, but the collective field that we carry. So let me feel into. I'm going to see what, what we. So your grandfather's asking for us to use stone still. So I don't know his connection to stones, but he's asking our great great grandmother, he's asking for stones and he's asking for emerald. Amy Babish: And so emerald can alchemize. It's a barrel stone. And so barrel stones go to the DNA level. And so I don't know if he knows that. He doesn't know that. But I'm a stone, I'm a Dallas stonalist, so I have a lot of stone information, stone wisdom. And so let me see what it wants to come as. Your systemic field is going to make each of you an elixir. Amy Babish: And so you don't have to have it like in real life, but in the space. I'm going to see what the dosage is. You will have the same dosage. It's one drop three times a day for three days. And then there's another layer, three drops three times a day for 27 days. And so sometimes I'm sure you've taken elixirs in your life, but for those people who've never taken elixir, they build in your system. And even when we work in this quantum field or the liminal space, they also need to build there. And so you two will take the first drop together. Amy Babish: And it. I can feel like there's almost tears in his eyes. And it's going to go through. And even though we ingest elixir, physically, it would go down our esophagus. This liminal elixir is going to coat the blood and the back of the heart and all the arteries and all of the, the veins, and it's going to go into the oxygen of the blood. We're going to reoxygenate your blood with this activation around equality and give and take. So. Emma: Sounds great. Amy Babish: You can just close your eyes and you. And he can just receive that first drop. And it might be. You might just, you might experience it differently, but we're going to give, give some space for it to come through your bodies. And he, he's telling me that sirens are singing into it. Oh, yeah, they're. They're helping release all the sorrow from all the betrayal and all the heartbreak. And they're singing, they're singing songs of activating safety, trust, and like dialing your vibration up to the resonance that needs to be too. Amy Babish: And I Can feel it going down to both of you. Both of you. I feel it going all the way down to like the bottom of your tailbones. And now it's going. Now I can feel it kind of going down through your knees and it's making its way down to your big toes. So what, what are you noticing? What are you noticing him? What are you noticing yourself? Emma: I feel like he is like sobbing. Like a sense of relief. Yeah. Amy Babish: Yep. Emma: For me, I suppose I feel a lightness in my shoulders, in my lower back, even like a bit of my airways, you know, my breathing. I definitely wonder, like one of the things that. The feedback I get a lot. Amy Babish: Yes. Emma: Is that there is grief that still needs to be let go of my lungs. And I'm curious, I'm like, is that like, can you do something, could you do something about the grief, please? Because I'm like doing everything I can to let it go. Amy Babish: Okay, let's ask. So he's. I can feel his. His sobbing's kind of coming to, like the way the emotional wave is going. Going through. Emma: Yeah. Amy Babish: So you can ask him, do you. Do you know he might not be conscious of it. Does he carry a lot, like enormous unresolved grief? Emma: Yes. Amy Babish: Okay. Yep. And this is all part of the same pattern, the same entanglement. So I'm getting. I'm getting confirmation. Emma: Yeah. Amy Babish: Okay. So. Emma: And I'm hearing. I'm hearing that he's. It's for his mother. He has huge grief for his mother. Amy Babish: Okay. So we're going to bring her in first. So we're bringing in your great, great great grandmother. Yeah. All that energy is releasing so we can bring her in and we're just gonna let them have a moment together. Emma: He feels like he's overwhelmed with like all the emotions from love to regret to sadness to joy. Like she feels like he was. He feels like she was his all time favorite person and she was gone too soon. Amy Babish: Yeah. Yeah. And he was gone too soon too. So history repeated itself. So he can explain to his mom who you are, who we are, and that we're here to help. And that in this afterlife, in this liminal space, they are able to receive. These are not my words. These are your field's words. Amy Babish: Eternal peace and eternal rest. And they have not been. Neither of them have been in. In those places. And I can feel it. It's in her kidney. It's in her left kidney. She. Amy Babish: She died of kidney. Some kidney failure. And she. And she knows that she died of that. So it was a very painful A very painful and sudden death. Emma: Yeah. I can feel he's overwhelmed for her pain and not being able to do anything about it. Amy Babish: Yeah, they didn't know how to. They didn't know how to help in Ireland around this. So you are in the spring season, and I am in the. In the fall season up here in the. In the north. And the fall season is. Is the season of grief and joy, and it is associated with the metal element, and it is associated with, like, reaping the harvest. Like, what went well, what didn't go well. Amy Babish: And I can feel that when we have a lot of unresolved grief, we can't really be with the harvest because the harvest wasn't even there. And so it feels like we're going to bring in another stone. This is the most stones I've ever used on an episode, Emma. I mean, I use stones with people all the time, but on the podcast, people haven't heard my Taoist stonalism this much. So I'm going to see which stone we're going to bring in. We're going to bring in raw turquoise. So raw turquoise is. Has that white powderiness to it, and that is like the ghost. Amy Babish: It's really good for removing the ghosts that we've carried. The ghost of grief, the ghost of loss. You're smiling. Do you have some raw turquoise close by? Emma: I actually had turquoise under my pillow last night. Amy Babish: Okay, here we go. Here. Here we go. So we're going to bring in raw turquoise. And it's not an elixir. It's not a tincture. It is going to be the consciousness of raw turquoise. And so we're going to invite it to. Emma: To. Amy Babish: To alchemize the grief. And so when we carry unresolved grief, that's not ours. It's like a well that has no bottom. And it can be. Sometimes we cry, but sometimes we just can't access joy. Like, it not. We might not be conscious of, I'm sad all the time or I'm grieving all the time, but we can't be in the fullness of joy. So I have a sense that that's your expression of it. Emma: Yeah, I certainly don't feel like I'm in grief. I think that's the thing that I've felt frustrated about. I don't feel like I'm in grief. And when I do consciously move through grief, I move through it really quickly. So I think that's actually a frustration that I felt like I'm good at grief. Why is it sticking around? But it makes more sense that it's not mine in the first place. That. That makes a lot of sense to me. Amy Babish: Yeah. So we'll just kind of close our eyes and go into the liminal space, and the consciousness will go in on every level. Physical, emotional, thinking, energetic, spiritual, through all of these generations. And I can feel it, like, softening the heart space for them. Their hearts have been atrophied from all of the Just hurt upon hurt. Hurt upon hurt. Yeah. And it feels like the consciousness of raw turquoise is almost like opening the spout of all the tears that they've carried from all the loss, all the betrayal, all of the gone too soon. Amy Babish: The different layers that have been woven with what the. What the roots of the grief are within the lineage. Emma: I definitely feel like. Like I'm being shown a thread that ran through my dad and his dad as well, you know, like. Yes, this. This bottomless. Because both of them are fundamentally joyous, yet, I don't know, burdened with this. This responsibility and a sense of sadness, you know? Amy Babish: Yeah, yeah. Sorrow. Emma: Sorry. Amy Babish: And. And they want me to say they've been shackled by grief. Grief kept them from peace in the afterlife. Grief kept them from fully living, from fully being alive and being like their full selves. Emma: Yeah. Amy Babish: Yeah. That's going to continue for them for some time. It's going to continue in you for 24 hours. So you don't have to think about it. Just. It's just going to do it. I can breathe really deep when I say that. Okay. Amy Babish: Let me see if there's anything else. Anything else coming to mind for you, Anything you're noticing in you or in them. Emma: I suppose I just. I'm seeing the pattern of my dad and my papa, you know, both being with women that couldn't fully receive their love. So therefore, like, just continuing on this pattern of. Of grief and responsibility and sorrow, you know, like that their love wasn't received. And it's definitely been a pattern that's played out in my life too. Amy Babish: Yes. Well, as your great, great grandfather, does he carry that pattern too? Emma: He says no, but I. Because I get the sense that it's. It's like how it was created, because it wasn't like the relationship, the love that he had for his mother, because that was all ended in such a way that it impacted him forever. It was like the relationship between man and woman down that lineage was like the man is in sorrow and she's almost like she's not there anymore, you know? So, yeah. Amy Babish: I'm getting that the raw turquoise will help with this. Emma: Yeah. Cool. Amy Babish: It will help balance grief and joy, and it will help balance. You have little puppers? Yes. Emma: I just got. I just got to let her out. Sorry. Is that okay? Amy Babish: Please, go ahead. I have a puppy. I mean, she's not a puppy, but I have. I have a dog, too. No problem. Emma: Yeah, I'll let her out. Hang on. Amy Babish: Okay, so what are you noticing and you and them? Emma: I'm noticing a sense of lightness. And then there was just this image of. It's also like me, my dad, my. My papa all being like balloons, like helium balloons and just being, like, really light and joyous. I think there's definitely this pattern that we're all fundamentally very playful people, yet in our own way, we've shut it down. So I can feel that playfulness. Really kind of, you know, turning us into balloons is kind of a way to just be, like, light and fun. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Amy Babish: I'm checking to see. You don't have full access to that yet. So we can do another. Another. Another layer if you're up for it. Emma: Yeah, bring it. Okay. Amy Babish: Okay. I'm gonna check on what resource we need. This. This is going to be a resource for receiving. So this feels like another one around you being able to turn the dial to playfulness. Enjoy. Emma: And. Amy Babish: And that you won't, because it's not like an Emma thing. It's the systemic fields so that your great, great grandfather, your. Your papa, your dad, all of you and your. You have. You have boys and your sons will be able to. To fully turn the dial consciously, and they will not miss it anymore. They won't be like, where is that dial? Oh, it's in my childhood. Where is that dialed? It's the balloons. Amy Babish: It's like, no, no, it's right here in this life right here. So we're going to ask for the resource that can help you get to the dial. No problem. Easy peasy. And that when you dial it in, you can hold the resonance, you can hold the vibration and be the vibration, and you don't have to do anything. It just happens. So let's see. Does any resource come to mind for you? Emma: I think I'm overthinking it. All I saw. All I. All I saw and thought of was a ball. So I don't know what that means. Amy Babish: Okay, a ball. What color is the ball? Emma: Red. Amy Babish: Okay, so let's see. Let's see what the red ball has to tell us. So it is. It is part of one of the resources in the field which is a vibration of red. And so the red is here to also soften the heart because this is joy, authenticity, live in the heart. And it's also like a fun red. So it's not, it's not like a fiery, you're going to get burnt red. It's like, oh, you know, a sparkler red or you know, beautiful red flowers that are playful or any kind of red that's joyful, like red balloons. Amy Babish: It's that kind of frequency. And so the red ball, let's see what it wants to do. It's just going to come into each of your heart spaces. So it's a sphere and it has. The best way to kind of talk about is like angelic light. It's an angelic red. And some people would call that elohim, like an elohim of red. But I'm not here to like be in any school of thought. Amy Babish: It's just this is a red sphere that is in its wholeness to help you be able to dial in you and this part of the lineage dial, enjoy authenticity and playfulness. So you can just close your eyes. And for some of you, it might come from the back of the heart coming forward. And for others it might come from the front of the heart going backwards. And for some of you, it's going to go top down, from above your head, down through the center. So everybody's field works in different ways and it's just going to kind of find its like soft landing place in your hearts. And it's also going into your son's hearts and into the heart of your house. So what are you noticing? Emma: It's just it. I feel the playfulness. I feel like it's funny because obviously I'm a girl, but like ball sports, I've always had like, I really enjoy them and I feel like it. That's the playfulness that I'm feeling like, you know, playing with the family, playing with people, laughing. And again, it comes back to this, just this freedom and authenticity, you know, like just being unhindered. I don't know, there's just this feeling that I get when I play sports. But yeah, it's that you're in flow. Amy Babish: And part of what was happening with the grief that wasn't yours and the betrayal, the armor kept you from being able to receive this even though you've let go of so much of it. It wasn't like there was no more you could let go of because it wasn't yours. So now your heart is imbalance, your lungs are imbalance. Your blood's in balance. Reciprocity is imbalance. You're able to resonate with reciprocity. Playfulness, joy, authenticity, equality, equal, give and take. Yeah, I can feel, like, your shoulder really, like the connective tissue and the vagal nerve kind of small veins. Amy Babish: Not veins, but small, small connections back there. And the lymph really open up back there. And so there's just gonna be a lot more space. What do you. What are you noticing? Emma: So you can't like this up. So I actually have a thing, have an oversensitive vagal nerve that shows up in my throat. So I cough if there's a smell or there's smoke or there's cold air or if I talk too much. Like, I cough. And it's because my throat has been elent. Really young and, you know, maybe in another life, I don't know. But to be on high alert and to close down. And what's really interesting is just this week I've been like, okay, it's time. Emma: I need to learn to speak from my belly. I need to, you know, really focus on the vagal nerve and this oversensitivity and that just the fact that you said. I'm like, well, that was easy because I just put the intention out there and I'm like, okay, cool. Amy Babish: Here it is. Here it is. Yeah, I'm gonna check. This was part of the entanglement. Emma: So. Amy Babish: This life kind of reinforced it, but the pattern was there from the entanglement. Emma: Which makes so much sense because my throat, also part of this blueprint, is a massive part of my purpose. And it's also been, you know, in many cases, kind of the center point in my trauma. You know, either choosing not to say anything or trying to over talk to, you know, just to be understood or to be heard or not feeling heard at all. Like, it's been a really central theme. And one of the things that, you know, practitioners will say to me, it's like, you just need to learn to speak your truth. I'm like, dude, I'm speaking my truth. Like, I got that speeds. I could not be more authentic, transparent, honest. Emma: So it's always been a little bit like, I don't understand why that's still there. Because, yep, sure, I used to repress my voice a lot. Then I overused it in a. In a. Honestly, to try and get love to be understood. And I've come to this place now that I'm like, I'm not repressing or indulging it. So I've always. I've kind of been in this place like, well, why am I still experiencing blah, blah and blah? So I just feel like it's very. Emma: It makes sense that all this would be coming up now and that, that you're saying what you're saying that that makes sense that it could be somebody else's. Because I really have. You've done a lot of work on it. Yeah. Amy Babish: You've made your part conscious. Right. So yeah, when we. This is so good for people who are listening. When we've done all the work and it's still there, it's like that's low hanging fruit. It's probably not ours. Emma: Right. Amy Babish: And we can't just like clap, clap, slap, slap. It's. We can't just be like, I'm not going to carry that anymore. It doesn't work like that. Emma: So I've tried. Amy Babish: Yeah, you put your mind to that. I have a sense of that with you. So what I'm going to just double check on everything. So when we're doing this work in this way, it's almost as if we're stringing together like a necklace of resources. So that's the best metaphor because they're not working independently, they're working as a group. Everything we've done today. And so they're integrating. They don't need anything else. Amy Babish: So our witnessing of it is enough. The quantum field, the conscious observer, sometimes we have to do a different kind of integration. But this, this is enough. This will integrate it for you. And I'm just going to double check on your throat. Three days, it should be fully integrated in your throat. Emma: Cool. Amy Babish: So yeah, so you. It's kind of like today we did a big chunk of it and then whatever needs to like fully be released or activated will take the three days. So I don't have. Today we did. Sometimes I can get a percentage. Today we did 63% on your throat. So the rest it will do itself. So now we're going to do the last step of the constellation. Amy Babish: So you're going to go in and you were only entangled with your great great grandfather, not your great great great grandmother. That was no entanglement. So you're going to go in and he's going to give you a blessing if he likes. If not, he might be a man. A few words. It's okay. You let me know when that's done and then I'll let you know the next step. Emma: Okay. Amy Babish: It. Okay. So now you're going to say to him, you know, thank you and I'm ready to take my life back from you now. I see you're sorted. I see you're with your mom. I see you're so happy and you're going to actually receive life force that you yours, it's going to come back into your body. You might feel it, you might see it, you might just have an awareness of it and then you're going to tell him, I'm going to take this life force and I am going to have a quiet mind. I'm going to trust the path in front of me. Amy Babish: I'm going to trust my next step. I am going to feel the magic of being alive in life with intertwined with wisdom. I will have childlike wonder in life with joy. I'll have freedom and sovereignty just by being me at a cellular level. I will have a deep feeling of being supported with equal give and take, full reciprocity, full resonance, full dialing into reciprocity and equality. I will know that I don't have to have so much drive around responsibility. I will know that things are being taken care of and equally shared and I will have so much joy, playfulness and adventure in this life with all this energy that I'm receiving back that I didn't even know I had because I have a lot of energy as it is and. Anything else you want to say to him? Emma: Okay, yeah. Amy Babish: So you can just kind of start to come out, take, take some water, come back to the space. Emma: Cool. Amy Babish: How are you feeling? What are you noticing? Any questions? Emma: I think the first thing just to notice is that I don't feel sick anymore. Yeah, I think that's really the most significant thing now in the moment. And although like I know change happens really quickly, for me my conscious awareness of that change takes time. So like three days from now I'll probably be like, oh my God, this, this, this, this and this. Amy Babish: Yeah. Emma: But I think the most significant thing now is that I like I've been feeling a bit rubbish and now I don't. Now I feel just normal again, like I'm back to my old self. So yeah, I'm excited to see. Amy Babish: How. Emma: The equality piece plays out. The throat thing. Like. Yeah, there's a lot of really tangible implications for everything that we worked on. So looking forward to seeing how that all plays out. Amy Babish: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So this work is, works as you, as you. I'm sure you have a clear sense because you know about these things in a very non linear way. And I am checking to make sure that I'm doing my checks and Balances. The work did stick and it did land. So sometimes when you do these processes, you're like, fingers crossed. What's gonna happen? This, this, this stuck. Everything we did stuck for you and your great, great grandfather and the pieces for your papa, your dad, and your boys. Amy Babish: So that all is in there. And yeah, I don't have any other information at this moment of like how the other pieces will kind of layer themselves in. And I know it, it, it's all in there. We got it all in there. So thank you for trusting me because this is. You've done a lot of things, so this, this is, this is probably pretty out there for you, Emma. Emma: No, not really. I mean, to be honest. No, not at all. Far out. I've done crazy ass shit and like. Yeah. And I, I think the thing that, for me is that I understand how the quantum field works. I understand the time is not linear, that it's all happening now. Emma: Like, so it all makes sense to me from that perspective. Like, why wouldn't it work? You know? Amy Babish: That's right. That's right. Emma: So, so, yeah, it's certainly not, it's. It's not the one I don't have. I don't have a standout. You know, I've done some pretty crazy things, but yeah, this has been cool. Thank you, thank you. Amy Babish: Thank you so much. And to those of you who've. Who's listened the whole way through, thank you. And if you are curious about all of your intentions and entanglements, please reach out. Please email me, you have full permission to say, hey, I carry the same kind of push and pull Emma does about asking for help and then having resistance. You can just put that in there. And if this episode resonates, please like it, save it, share it, leave a comment, and I can't wait to see you in the next episode. And if you're wondering about my next group offering, the Women's Legacy Collective, we will be doing this kind of work as a group. Amy Babish: So reach out to me for that. Join my newsletter and until next time, sending you blessings from the doeg land that I. That I steward. That's all for this episode of the Soulful Visionary Podcast. If you found value in today's episode and are ready to delve deeper into aligning your inner world and environment, please subscribe to this podcast on your favorite podcast platform. 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