I’m Loyal to the Part of You They Tried to Control
There’s over a thousand years of perpetuated dysfunction, pain, & the inability to have a safe family that’s been passed down.
If it was about telling our story—we’d all be healed. (I say that as a Legacy Advisor with over 20 years experience as a Somatic Trauma Therapist.)
Constellation work digs so much deeper to allow the cycle to truly be broken. Some entanglements are incredibly complex and far-reaching.
That can even mean something like an ancestral entanglement is woven in with a past life entanglement. As is the case in this session with Brittany.
If you haven’t heard her first constellation work session, I highly encourage you to listen to that first. We’re doing something new and sharing her 3-part constellation work series on the podcast so you can follow the progression.
You’ll especially want to tune into this client session if you, too:
» feel deeply unlovable
» have some awareness of past lives
» feel like you’re doing everything “right”
» have had the trust broken with your family
» are stuck between the family you were born into and the one you want to create
**TW: This conversation includes specific mentions of murder & sexual trauma. If you choose to listen, take gentle care.
Topics covered in this podcast episode:
Updates since Brittany’s first constellation work session with Amy
The updated intention for this second client session
How feeling unlovable could be a sign of an entanglement
How constellation work helps people heal from sexual trauma
What it means if the entanglement is on both sides of the blood lineage
Why you must be in right relationship for ancestral work
Why the victim perpetrator bond shows up again and again
What can be done when there’s an entanglement with a stubborn soul
How constellation work is able to bring things into wholeness
What it means when a soul doesn’t know where to “be” in a constellation
Why deep healing doesn’t happen by sharing our stories
How constellation work can help with really complex astrology charts
Which Tarot cards Amy pulled before the client session
What to do to integrate between constellation work sessions
When we can't fully breathe, we can't fully let life in and let go of the stuff that's been very painful.
Thank you to Brittany, and thank you to you for joining us for part 2 of this expansive 3-part series on constellation work.
Wherever you are in your own journey around alchemy, suffering in silence, being boomeranged back into your family's mess or your ancestry's mess—I hope you receive some alchemy from this.
I can't wait to see you for our next episode and for the follow up of Brittany's third session, whatever that divine timing is. Until then, sending you so many blessings!
If you’re called to work with me, I’m beginning to offer a 3-part package of constellation work. It's three 2-hour constellation sessions with an integration ritual. You can learn more here to explore if this is a good fit for your healing journey.
Resources:
Processing Information Intellectually vs Somatically
Related Episodes:
I’m Loyal to the Part of Your Soul that Died with Your Baby (Brittany session 1)
I’m Loyal to How You Were Persecuted (Marie)
Connect with Amy:
The unedited podcast transcript for this episode of The Soulful Visionary Podcast follows
Amy Babish:
Have you ever felt like there's something more just waiting to be unlocked in your life? Like no matter how much you've accomplished, a deeper potential is calling. Welcome to the Soulful Visionary podcast, where I guide you to align with your authentic self and create a life of purpose, love and lasting impact. A life where you can truly soar, be beyond what your mind can comprehend. I'm your host, Amy Babish, a licensed psychotherapist and an expert in somatic coaching, feng shui and wisdom traditions. With over 20 years of experience guiding thousands of clients through soul level transformation. Each week we'll dive into potent practices, live client sessions and insightful conversations to help you dissolve intergenerational patterns and transcend your upper limits so that you can live the big life you're meant to live. Tune in and let's unlock your inner wisdom together. Welcome to the Soulful Visionary podcast.
Amy Babish:
I'm your host, Amy Babish, legacy advisor for Body Home Soul and Legacy Ancestry. I'm so excited to have Brittany here again. We're going to be doing a three part series that's going to be perhaps prep it in with other guests, but you get to follow her, her, her progression. So, Brittany, welcome back for session two.
Brittany:
Thank you.
Amy Babish:
So tell me, where have you been? What has unfolded since your constellation, which was about two weeks ago.
Brittany:
Yeah. So like week and a half. Two weeks. It hasn't been too, too long, but there's been a lot of stuff getting there.
Amy Babish:
Yeah.
Brittany:
And I know I messaged you about something, so if I forget anything, let me know. But I know that right after we got off the call, one of the things we were talking about was money. And right after I got off the call, two invoices had been paid, which had been kind of like out there for a while. So that was wild. Had some digital products that sold just things that I wasn't even promoting. So that was really incredible to see. I think it was the next day, my boyfriend and I were driving to see his family. We get in the car in about 10 minutes.
Brittany:
After being in the car, there's ants just like flowing out of the dashboard. And I was like, what is this? And the drive was longer than normal. So it was like about two hours of me just killing ants on the dashboard of the car, which is wild. I have no idea what that means. You'll have to tell me. But there was that. What else? I mean, those are the big things. And then things have just felt, I would say, lighter.
Amy Babish:
That's amazing. So ants can mean different. Things for different lineages. When I think of ants, I think ants in groups like that, it's like the worker bees are here. Your ancestors are ready to do the work. And I also think about a car dashboard. This is the console where all of the control panel kind of inside out. Yes.
Amy Babish:
There are all the gears under the hood, but it's like this is the place in your car that is like the control panel. So your ancestors are coming as a force to help rewire the control panel.
Brittany:
That's wild. And that makes a lot of sense.
Amy Babish:
Yeah. They're ready for. They're ready to help.
Brittany:
They really are.
Amy Babish:
All souls on deck. Yes.
Brittany:
Oh. Oh, I know there was a sad thing that happened.
Amy Babish:
So.
Brittany:
So I'm very connected to animals here, and just in general. And I forgot that there was a chipmunk that was hit by a car in our driveway, and it wasn't me. I would have been, like, much more upset if it had been me.
Amy Babish:
And so sometimes chipmunks can be, like, really frenetic energy, like, things that are frenetic. And, like, I have to do this. I have to swirl this away. I have to, like, zoom, zoom, zoom, zoom, zoom. And so I'm sorry that that chipmunk took a hit. Um, and it feels like with the work we did, like, whatever that was for that past ancestor, that it was like she was not going to be at rest. Like, it feels like that mantle could be laid down.
Brittany:
Oh, wow. Oh, that's. Okay. That's like bittersweet. Yeah.
Amy Babish:
Yeah. So that's. That's what I'm. That's what I'm sensing about those touchstones.
Brittany:
Yeah.
Amy Babish:
Okay, so today, what would you say your current intention is? Like, what's the updated intention?
Brittany:
Yeah, so what I wrote down because after our call, we were chatting a little bit, and the marriage piece was. What was. We were like, oh, that. So what I wrote down for the intention today is to be in a happy, healthy, adventurous, committed and loving partnership.
Amy Babish:
Okay. And anything else about, you know, finding your home, like, the shared home together or getting pregnant. Anything else you want to. Like, we want to. We want to put it all in.
Brittany:
Yeah.
Amy Babish:
Yeah.
Brittany:
I feel like it's a bit repeated. Yes. From last time. Some other stuff that I wrote down. So definitely yes to all of those things. We didn't go to any open houses, I don't think, since we chatted. Okay. We've been looking still, but just didn't find anything to really go look at.
Brittany:
But one thing I've also noticed is that I kind of Feel stuck between choosing the family I was born into and the family that I want to create. There's. That. There's things I want to call in. I definitely, like, I know I mentioned last time that my daughter, like, I know her spirit's been hanging around for about a year and a half, so I know she's ready. Like, I get the sense that she's, like, picking up on who we are, what we're about, and just making herself a part of the family before she's even here yet.
Amy Babish:
Yes.
Brittany:
So, yeah, I know her name, I know everything. So, yeah, that's been really cool. And we're definitely, like, ready or ready soonish at least for her to come in.
Amy Babish:
And.
Brittany:
Yeah, just. I mean, I don't know the domino that things will happen or if it's just going to be all at once, but marriage house baby, like, feels like all of that is just going to be like, boop. Here's everything. After so much time waiting and feeling like there's been a slog and a struggle.
Amy Babish:
Yep. And when you feel into, like, sometimes it can feel subtle, sometimes it can feel amorphous, Sometimes it can feel like, oh, no, I. I got it. What do you feel like is getting in the way right now?
Brittany:
I don't know. And it kind of goes back to last time of just. I feel like I'm doing all of the right things. Part of it could be that maybe it's not on my end, maybe. And that's fine because, like, I'm just clearing up my. My end of the street. My side of the street. I do think there could be a bit of.
Brittany:
I don't even know how to phrase it, but it's similar to what we were talking about just before we started recording of my family maybe not wanting that for me and my family being like, no, like, you're so part of this mess.
Amy Babish:
Yep. Yep.
Brittany:
Yeah.
Amy Babish:
And. And when you say that, what do you notice?
Brittany:
One of the things I did notice leading up to this call this session has been, I'll have all these good things happen. And then I get texts specifically from my mom and my brother.
Amy Babish:
Yes.
Brittany:
My dad doesn't really talk to me except if it's about work. And there. There have been a lot of texts. And actually we had. You and I had had this initial conversation about the first session right after some big news was dropped on me by my brother. And it brought back a whole lot of not good memories, really. Related to trust being broken by everyone else in my family with me.
Amy Babish:
Me.
Brittany:
Feeling like I was suffering in plain sight, and no one was willing to acknowledge that or help me through it or just be with me through it, which definitely ties in a lot with the last session and the last ancestor of, like, struggling on your own. Yeah, almost. Almost like sabotage of, like. No, no. You belong to this stuff still.
Amy Babish:
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I have the chills when you say that.
Brittany:
Okay, cool. There's. There's. It's never really felt like, with the exception of my boyfriend, it's never really felt like there's been a man or a woman who's been there for me in my life. Yeah, yeah.
Amy Babish:
Got it. It went. I feel. I'm feeling we're in the right. The field is getting specific. Okay, okay, okay. And anything else that is coming up, just that we want to name before we do our tune in.
Brittany:
I know one conversation that's come up a lot recently with my boyfriend is just. And he thinks it's wild that I even say this, but just how deeply unlovable I have felt my entire life, really, up until, like, the last year, I would say, okay, yeah, that feels important.
Amy Babish:
And if this is, I think, helpful, not just for you, but for listeners. What shifted a year ago. Ish. Between yourself or between you and your boyfriend that you were like, oh, no, I know I'm lovable, and I can feel it with him.
Brittany:
This is important. The end of 2022. I haven't talked about this publicly, but at the end of 2022, we actually separated, took a break, and we had been together almost 10 years at that point. And we took a break not knowing if we would get back together because that was when it really became clear that, like, no, I'm meant to be a mom. And that coupled with a few other things, we weren't sure if we were on the same page. And I didn't want to choose something just to make him happy and vice versa. So we said, okay, this is going to be hard. We have no idea if we're going to get back together, but we need to figure out what we both want.
Brittany:
So within about a month, we knew that we were on the same page about all of the things that we were questioning. And so we really got to, like, re. Choose each other and come back to this relationship differently and wanting to be different and knowing what that different thing was. Yeah.
Amy Babish:
And that. That then helped alchemize, at least with him, that, you know, deep downside. You are lovable. Okay.
Brittany:
Yeah.
Amy Babish:
That's amazing.
Brittany:
Yeah.
Amy Babish:
I hope this gives a seed of hope and clarity for Some people who might be in story about things like that. And it's also oftentimes when it doesn't work out so peacefully, even though it was tense then, then, then I would look at a ancestral entanglement. So that part you guys sorted out, which is amazing.
Brittany:
Yeah.
Amy Babish:
And now we're going to see what else is here. Should we tune in?
Brittany:
Yes.
Amy Babish:
Okay. So we'll tune into your intention and your entanglement, asking your soul, your familial and systemic field, to give both of us an image or images that helps us to know what this is related to.
Brittany:
Okay.
Amy Babish:
Okay.
Brittany:
I'm on a boat. And that's literally the only thing I'm getting.
Amy Babish:
What are you getting?
Brittany:
That I'm on a boat.
Amy Babish:
Okay. On a boat.
Brittany:
Like ship, boat. I don't know how big yet.
Amy Babish:
Yep. Okay. And would you like to hear my tune in?
Brittany:
Yes.
Amy Babish:
Okay. So when I tuned in, it was like, interesting. Was hard for me to tune in. So I was kind of like getting a lot of different images and frequencies. And then when I tuned in, I got a very graphic image that I can put in the chat with you. And then you can let me know if you want me to say it out loud.
Brittany:
Okay.
Amy Babish:
Okay.
Brittany:
While you're typing, I feel like this is important too, because I'm getting like my attention going here. Something that happened between last session and this session was that my left pinky toe was going numb.
Amy Babish:
Yes.
Brittany:
That went away. But there has been. My left middle finger has now been swollen and very, very, very, very painful and angry and pissed.
Amy Babish:
So that's part of this.
Brittany:
Okay.
Amy Babish:
And given what you just shared, you know.
Brittany:
Yes, let's talk about this because.
Amy Babish:
Okay.
Brittany:
This has come up in my life.
Amy Babish:
Okay. So when I tuned in, and this is. If you are listening on the podcast, you can pause because it is going to be something that deals with sexual trauma and that's graphic sexually. That's non consensual. It feels. So when I tuned in, I saw a man or a male figure literally pushing a woman or a young, like a youngish adult woman's head down for a blowjob or fellatio. And I could feel it on the back of my neck and the back of my head, like a lot of pressure. And then the second layer I got was a feeling that I get in constellation work when I feel like mental illness is involved.
Brittany:
Okay.
Amy Babish:
So there was like a lot of like confused thinking in the head. And when I say that now, it's like a piercing, a piercing goes through the middle of my chest.
Brittany:
And I'm. I'm feeling, like, tightness and almost a shortness of breath there. Yeah, yeah, that. Yeah, that scenario has come up once in my life, and I remember, like, pretty intensely, like, fighting it, and nothing ended up happening. But, yeah. Yeah, that's interesting.
Amy Babish:
So that's the first layer. And for anyone that's experienced this, this is where it can be very complicated. When we carry sexual trauma in our lived life, like, our lived experience. And then when it has roots to an ancestral entanglement, it can just become a whole different place of healing and alchemy and transmutation that goes beyond trauma therapy. And I'm a trauma therapist by trade. I'm a somatic trauma therapist by trade. That's what I did for almost 20 years. So I say this with humility and also to give listeners hope and especially Britney's as we're at her in her process.
Amy Babish:
And whatever ancestors related to all of this, or ancestors that are related to this, those that have suffered around non, non consensual sexual contact or sex or being controlled as women. So how does that land in your system, Brittany?
Brittany:
Yeah, I'm getting, like, shaky, which is usually like, yep, okay, there's something here.
Amy Babish:
There's something here. And I don't. I don't think it was a coincidence that as I was typing this, you're talking about, you know, pain in your middle finger.
Brittany:
Yeah.
Amy Babish:
So it's like, you know, there's. There's an ancestor, like, wants us to, like, say this.
Brittany:
Yeah, exactly.
Amy Babish:
So big time, we can hear that. We can. We can notice between the two of us. So now we're gonna go in and we're gonna ask first on your maternal side, bring your mom behind your left shoulder. And asking her does she feel like she's doing everything right? But my family doesn't want me to move forward. They want me to be a part of the mess that I come from.
Brittany:
She's nodding. And ironically, she's actually been on a family trip to see her family, like, over the last few days.
Amy Babish:
Yeah. And then we're gonna just. Just kind of. We're gonna test for the different things. And then does she feel like in her lived experience, she was suffering in plain sight and nobody could recognize the suffering?
Brittany:
She's nodding her head.
Amy Babish:
And does she feel like, with the exception of, like, one person, perhaps her husband, that, like, she doesn't feel like anyone can see her? And does she struggle with feeling unlovable?
Brittany:
Mm, she's nodding.
Amy Babish:
Okay. Okay. We're gonna just check in with Your. Your dad, too. So asking your dad, does he. Does he also carry these things?
Brittany:
He's nodding.
Amy Babish:
Okay. Okay. So now we are going to do another retune in. Because when it's on both sides of our blood lineage, we're going to go into your soul lineage and we're going to notice. We're going to ask for a retuning in. And it might be similar, it might be different. Asking your soul to take us to the lifetime where this started for you.
Brittany:
There is a past life that I had some awareness around within the last few months. And when you mentioned the piercing pain in the chest just a little while ago, I was like, oh, I wonder if this is part of it. The short version is that I. I know I was a woman. I know I was protecting Jewish orphans, and a stranger man stabbed me in the front, in the. In the chest.
Amy Babish:
Okay.
Brittany:
And this came about, actually, when I was in the middle of what was the session? Spinal energetics.
Amy Babish:
Okay. Yep.
Brittany:
Yeah. So it. That's the. That's the visual that I'm getting. And I'm. I'm also seeing. Just like, even when I was talking with my mom just a little bit ago, it was like this line of women, female figures. So I don't know if it's.
Brittany:
It almost feels like it's a past life, plus that side of the family.
Amy Babish:
So you haven't heard the upcoming podcast that's coming out next week? No, but we had a similar thing that happened. So for those tuning in, you want to listen to Marie's episode, which is going to be published next week. So the sequence will be. You might want to go back and listen to it if you're on. On the. On the listening end. So things can be really complex and so we can have this blood lineage in this lifetime with the maternal and paternal lines. And then we go back to the, like, the root of the entanglement.
Amy Babish:
It can be in another lifetime where in that lifetime you interface with the lineage that is connected to the blood lineage in this life.
Brittany:
So it makes sense. No, there was another. Look, I've told you, I've done a lot of work. So another friend of mine is a medium, when she really hasn't done any of her mediumship in a while. We were on a call again last year, and her Internet, her, like, whole home system of whatever, just completely shut down when we started talking about stuff. And there was a man that she was like, there's some guy, like, interfering with this. And I actually think, like, even talking this out with you I think that that guy that killed me in that past life was. Yeah.
Amy Babish:
In that. In that session. Yeah.
Brittany:
And like, literally tried to shut down the communication so we couldn't.
Amy Babish:
Yes. And this is where. When I'm working with people, either in groups or one to one, when the Internet goes, you know, freaks out or when Zoom crashes or, you know, whatever platform we're using, it is usually an ancestral entanglement.
Brittany:
Dang.
Amy Babish:
And so we're just gonna preface, before we go into this past life for you, your soul, your systemic field, your ancestral field, that when I do this work, I never shame, blame, or judge. And you are in right relationship. Like, you're not coming into this wanting to punish somebody. Can't do ancestral work with that kind of perspective. It's not. Doesn't make the work go well. So I think it's important to name that mostly for whoever that was.
Brittany:
Yeah.
Amy Babish:
That man who killed you. You know, I've worked with so many different ancestors who have done things that they have massive regret for, and they don't know how to let go of it. And so they think that they're going to be further ostracized, shamed, plain, or punished in some way. And so just to name for him that we're not going to do that today. If he shows up today, if that's what this is about.
Brittany:
Yeah, man.
Amy Babish:
Yeah. So we're going to go in.
Brittany:
Okay.
Amy Babish:
And you're going to ask, you know, that past life, that soul fractal, that part of your soul that still exists in another time and place. Asking her to show you the context what was happening with her. And if it's the Jewish orphans or if it's a different pre or post period of that, like, help. Help her. Let you know what this is about.
Brittany:
She's giving me scenes of, like, taking care of the kids.
Amy Babish:
Okay.
Brittany:
And she's reminding me the. The last time that I connected with her, she was just sharing how guilty she felt that she wasn't there for them anymore.
Amy Babish:
Okay, so you're going to let her know. Unless you already let her know in the past in the spinal energetics process, you're going to let her know that you are a part of her soul and you guys are connected by one soul and that you're in 2025 and she. We don't know which time period she's in, but ask her if she knows if she's dead.
Brittany:
Similar to last. I'm kidding. That, like. Oh, yeah, okay.
Amy Babish:
Yeah, yeah. So she didn't know she was dead. And so you can kind of explain your intention to her, that you're here to work on things for both of you, to help her resolve whatever she needs to resolve in the best way possible, and also to get yourself some relief and allow her to be her fully and that the soul fractal piece will come back fully to you. That's what we're. That's where we're headed.
Brittany:
She's nodding.
Amy Babish:
Okay. So you can say to her, can you show me if this is about the man that stabbed you.
Brittany:
She'S doubting, but it feels like there's more. Like that's just a piece of it.
Amy Babish:
Yeah. That's why I thought pre and pre, we might need to get a bigger or deeper context for her and ask her if she knows what time period we're in, because there are many periods where Jewish orphans were being persecuted.
Brittany:
Even last time she was sharing, it was around World War II.
Amy Babish:
Okay.
Brittany:
So the 40s.
Amy Babish:
Okay.
Brittany:
Feel like I'm hearing almost, I couldn't be a mom, and so this is my way to take care of kids. And I. She's showing me the scene that you mentioned, so I don't know if harm came to her and she was unable to have kids after that.
Amy Babish:
So you can. You can ask her.
Brittany:
And she's nodding.
Amy Babish:
Yeah. And ask her, was this a family member or was this someone in the community?
Brittany:
Or community.
Amy Babish:
Okay. And ask her, did anybody know that this was going on?
Brittany:
I'm seeing her nodding.
Amy Babish:
Okay. And ask her, can she share who. Who knew?
Brittany:
Seems like she told, like, one trusted person or maybe a couple, but not a whole lot of people knew.
Amy Babish:
Okay. And sometimes, you know, things are so complex in other time periods that literally nothing could be done. Did she. Does she feel like she could have gotten help and she didn't get it? Or she felt like this is just so common that nobody really knew how to stop.
Brittany:
Just seemed like something that was accepted that happened.
Amy Babish:
Yeah. So can you ask her who this man was? Like, was he a political figure or a religious figure or a different religion? Like, what was the power dynamic?
Brittany:
It actually does feel like it was someone with religious power.
Amy Babish:
Yeah. And ask her if they are the same religion or different religion.
Brittany:
Different.
Amy Babish:
Yeah. And ask her was. This feels really important given some of the pain that you carry that in your lived experience. You feel like your family is like, you can't move forward because you have to be a part of our mess. And so we can ask her. You can share that and then ask her, does she. Was that happening with this man? Was he Shaming her for being a protector of Jewish children. And like, it feels like that might be related.
Brittany:
Yeah. Yeah. Like you're beneath me. You're scum for doing that.
Amy Babish:
Yeah. So he was. He was humiliating her. And in some way, kind of like in the victim, perpetrator bond sense, he was tied. He tied himself to her just through the non consensual sex, but through the emotional and I'm guessing somehow spiritual humiliation and shame.
Brittany:
Mm. She's nodding even as you're saying that.
Amy Babish:
Yeah. And what happened? I'm curious what was happening with her biological family during this time.
Brittany:
She's pushing away like they had distanced themselves from her.
Amy Babish:
Okay. And you can say I'm loyal to that part of that. Like, that happens in my family too. They distance themselves from me unless I start to move forward and they bring me back.
Brittany:
I just get this visual of like, I don't know, the heaviness or, like sighing, like. Like, it's hard.
Amy Babish:
Yeah, it's really hard. It's really hard. Is there anything coming up in you, Britney, that you want to say to her or ask?
Brittany:
It doesn't feel like there was any closure with her family by the time she was killed.
Amy Babish:
Yep. So do we want to invite in her parents?
Brittany:
Yeah.
Amy Babish:
Yeah. And what happens when they come in to this context with her.
Brittany:
Every. They're all a little standoffish toward each other. Like they know it's important, but it's awkward, tense.
Amy Babish:
Yeah. And we can say. She can say to them, do you carry this pattern of suffering in plain sight of the family, not allowing either the mom or the dad to move forward? They want them to be connected to the mess.
Brittany:
They're all nodding, and it seems like it's. I'm being pulled more toward the mom.
Amy Babish:
Okay. And so she can ask her mom to bring forward her grandmother. Like, sorry, her. The.
Brittany:
The woman's grandma.
Amy Babish:
Yeah. Yeah.
Brittany:
Okay.
Amy Babish:
Yes. Yeah, the mom's mom. And she can say to her grandma, do you. Do you carry this pattern?
Brittany:
The grandma's nodding and. And the distancing, the pushing away almost feels even more intense from that level.
Amy Babish:
So we're gonna. It feels like it could go quite far back.
Brittany:
Yeah.
Amy Babish:
So we're gonna ask. And just. Just for clarity, it feels like, you know, in Judaism, this is. The mother's line is where the Jewish lineage is passed down. Just to. Just to clarify, is this the maternal Jewish line? Okay. So we're going to ask that blood lineage, that maternal lineage, to take us back to wherever that started in that lineage.
Brittany:
I have no sense of time. That I'm just seeing a young girl.
Amy Babish:
Okay. And can you see if it's in the same kind of, like, environment or is it a different landscape?
Brittany:
It feels totally different. And they're also making the image really small, almost like I'm. I'm looking way far back.
Amy Babish:
Yeah.
Brittany:
And she's cowering in what seems to be a really old stone kitchen kind of place.
Amy Babish:
Yeah. And so we can bring. We can make sure that your soul fractal. That woman who was murdered is there, and her mom and her grandmother are there, witnessing hope, this. And so we can explain to them that this might not make logical or linear sense, but the roots of this are ancient.
Brittany:
Yeah, that message definitely lands.
Amy Babish:
They're all like, yeah, yeah, yeah. So we can say, you know, whoever feels like they can speak to the little girl, younger girl, we can say to her, you know, you can say, I'm from 2025. And then the woman from the 40s can say, I'm from the 40s. And each of them can speak to her so that she can get a context of where you guys are and say to her, we're coming from the future into the past to help.
Brittany:
She still seems a little timid, but, yeah, now that we've introduced ourselves, she seems a little better.
Amy Babish:
And so whoever she feels like, she might feel softer. I feel like with either the mom or the grandmother, she might feel like. I'm not sure, but she might feel a little softness towards them. Whoever needs to be the primary person speaking with her. And it might be you. I don't know, to explain that you're here because each one of you has felt very alone in your suffering, and that at any time there's a forward movement, the family system says, no, you can't move forward. You have to be a part of the mess. And then also this might be true for her.
Amy Babish:
It may not be true that being forced to do something with sex that's not consensual without permission also lives in this lineage and thoughts of being told it's your fault, that you're unlovable, that you're wrong and bad, that you're less than. We have a sense that goes back to something that happened with her and what happens for her as we start to explain that.
Brittany:
It looks like she's shocked that anyone knows or anyone else can relate. And it looks like she's, you know, crying.
Amy Babish:
Yeah. Yeah. And so if you feel you can speak to her, you can. I don't know how tall she is, but you can get down to her level, and you can look her in the eyes and say, I really understand. I've been loyal to this for lifetimes. I know your pain. I know your sorrow. I know your shame.
Amy Babish:
I know your sense that nobody's gonna ever take care of you. And that no matter what you do, you don't feel like you can have your own family, your own life, your own baby, that you're doing everything right, and you just get a mess that isn't yours.
Brittany:
Did get down. She was on the floor. So I got down with her and I said all of that to her. And she just, like, hugged me, and she's crying and I'm holding her.
Amy Babish:
Yeah. Yeah. And so to say to her, did you ever try and ask for help, or did anyone know that what was happening to you?
Brittany:
People knew, and she knew that there was no one she could go to.
Amy Babish:
And ask her, who. Who was it? Or were there more than one person?
Brittany:
It does seem like it was more than one person.
Amy Babish:
Yeah. Yeah.
Brittany:
It seems like they knew about it. And then it does seem like some other women knew about it. I'm getting the sense that maybe she was a servant or something in this household.
Amy Babish:
Yeah.
Brittany:
And that it was definitely, like, the head of the man at the head of the household.
Amy Babish:
Yeah. And so we can ask her. It feels like she might have had a sense that this was not okay. Like, something was really not okay about this, or innately it wasn't right. Because I just asked that question. Because sometimes if that's confused, we have to do something else, but it feels like that's really, really clear for her.
Brittany:
Yeah.
Amy Babish:
And so we're gonna bring forward the head of the house, the man and the. And the woman, or if there were other, like, anybody that was in the house, we're gonna have them come into the context.
Brittany:
She immediately, like, ducked behind me.
Amy Babish:
Yeah. And so we're going to have some of the older women from the 40s. We're going to have them talk to the house. And do they feel like they know what to say?
Brittany:
Yeah, it seems like the. The main one, the original one from the 40s. Yeah. She seems pretty spicy and direct.
Amy Babish:
Yeah. I feel like you belong to that.
Brittany:
Pretty.
Amy Babish:
Yeah. So what happens when they hear her be spicy and direct?
Brittany:
They've never had anybody do that to them. Just like, wow.
Amy Babish:
Yeah. Yeah. And so you guys can tag team. You and her can tag team and explain because of what. What went on in this house. We have. I don't know if they know what year they're in.
Brittany:
I'm getting like 11, 12, 1300. Like, I don't know, it seems way far back.
Amy Babish:
Yeah. We have a thousand years around a little bit. A thousand years of perpetuated dysfunction, misogyny, chaos, pain, suffering, and the inability to have a safe family that's been carried down.
Brittany:
Get the sense that the, the couple, definitely the guy that at the head of the household is like, that's just how it is.
Amy Babish:
Yeah, Yeah. I had a feeling that was coming, unfortunately. So we're going to say to the little girl and the woman from the 40s might also know. We're going to ask them to tune into what is the resource that wasn't available to her in 1100 or 1200 or 1300 that would help reconcile the power dynamics between the victim and perpetrator that lived in this house. So it might be something in nature, it might be something spiritual, it might be something in the community.
Brittany:
It feels like a community, like a group of people is what they're showing me. And they're, they're touching their throats, almost like just being able to have their voice heard and use their voice.
Amy Babish:
Okay. And so what is what, what needs to be said that hasn't been said to the man, the head of the house.
Brittany:
That, you know, actions were wrong, he should have been held to the count. It wasn't right.
Amy Babish:
Okay. And what happens for him?
Brittany:
He still seemed very stubborn.
Amy Babish:
Yeah. So ask him to look at the agony on a little girl's face, how he. She's hiding from him.
Brittany:
Getting almost this like. Yeah, I can see it. Like I resigned. Like I can see.
Amy Babish:
And ask him, did he do this to anyone else in the house?
Brittany:
Yes.
Amy Babish:
And so we're going to ask whoever else this happened to in the house, it could be his own wife, it could be other servants, it could be other children. We want whoever experienced that non consensual sex or sexual acts, we want them to stand in front of him.
Brittany:
Got very full.
Amy Babish:
Yeah, yeah. And the invitation is for those, those people and those children to express the unexpressed. They're suffering their humiliation. They're feeling like trust has been broken. They're feeling like they're suffering in plain sight. They're feeling like no matter what they do, they're brought back into his mess. That they feel deeply unlovable, that they feel like they can never have their own way forward, their own home, marriage, family, baby.
Brittany:
Having all of them in there is definitely changing his energy.
Amy Babish:
Yeah, yeah. Because this is, this is the interesting part of alchemy, shaming. We can't shame him into this for him to see from his own soul, from his own self, the impact in real. In a real way, people's emotional experience, people's spiritual experience that he directly knew.
Brittany:
Yeah, he did a complete 180. He, you know, I think the weight of all of it got to him. And he sat down and he's head in his hand and he actually said, I'm sorry, without anyone even saying anything.
Amy Babish:
Yeah, he. He couldn't. When we're aligned with the perpetrator lineage, we cannot see the impact of our actions.
Brittany:
I get this sense from him that it was. It felt less bad and less detrimental when it was one. One person at a time. But seeing everyone packed in there and was getting to him, getting him to get it.
Amy Babish:
Yeah, he's seeing the whole picture now.
Brittany:
Yeah.
Amy Babish:
He's not just in his little literal tunnel vision of like, you know, our quote unquote, good intentions can create a lot of harm and it doesn't let us see the whole picture. So what's happening for the little girl? What's happening for the woman in the 40s?
Brittany:
The little girl came out from behind my back and she's now holding my hand next to me.
Amy Babish:
Yeah. And what about the woman in her 40s?
Brittany:
I'm getting this. The job well done. Like, almost as like, you know. Yeah, well, like cleaning my hands, kind of like. There we go.
Amy Babish:
So. So that's part of it. And we're gonna. We're gonna invite in a resource that really helps to alchemize the suffering and alchemize epigenetically, energetically, spiritually, physically, emotionally. The ties of the victim perpetrator bond and putting them into the. The right context which lives back in this time. So it might be, again, the resource might be something metaphysical, it might be something from Judaism, it might be something from the time, might be something from nature.
Brittany:
I'm just seeing loads and loads of butterflies.
Amy Babish:
Oh.
Brittany:
Oh, yes. Even before you started talking about it, I was just seeing so many butterflies.
Amy Babish:
Yeah. And what colors or color are they?
Brittany:
I'm mostly seeing the monarchs, but if I zoom out, I'm seeing all kinds of colors and shapes and sizes.
Amy Babish:
So we're going to invite that butterfly alchemy to go weave, literally weave like a figure eight in and around what's happening.
Brittany:
It's funny because I was also picking up the hummingbird and I know that their wings go in the figure 8 pattern.
Amy Babish:
So we're going to ask all the figure 8, the infinity symbol, to weave the right place for the victim, perpetrator belong, victim, perpetrator, bond in this lineage. It's. This is its. This is its place. And then we're also going to ask for the alchemy to go throughout all the line, all the way through the woman who's from the forties and into you. All of the thousands, millions of people connected to this line.
Brittany:
Last time I was getting the slide, but this time I'm getting just a really intense beam of light. Yeah.
Amy Babish:
And we're going to ask that man who also stabbed the woman in the 40s, we're going to ask him to come in and to witness all of this. And, you know, in. In alchemy, it can be like a flip book. He doesn't need to go through it all again. It can be there in the context with the butterflies. The butterflies can give him the alchemy.
Brittany:
All the butterflies are, like, plastering themselves on him.
Amy Babish:
Yeah. He needs a double dose, high elixir, butterfly magic. And what happens for her, the one in her 40s, as she witnesses the butterflies support this alchemy?
Brittany:
It just feels good. Feels right. She actually doesn't hold any anger toward him.
Amy Babish:
Yeah. Yeah. And that's also important to name. Like, sometimes victims hold a righteousness around blame and punishment. And I could feel in her that that wasn't what was happening.
Brittany:
Yeah. It was almost like she could see how things could be in their wholeness, and she just was so confused that they weren't.
Amy Babish:
Yeah. You can say to her, I belong to that, too. I. I have that gift from our soul.
Brittany:
Everyone just seems to be breathing easier.
Amy Babish:
Yes. Yeah. There's a lot of grief that was held in this lineage. A lot of pain. And when we can't fully breathe, we can't fully let life in and let go of the stuff and the bullshit of stuff that's been very painful. So is there anything else that anyone else needs to say to you, to each other, or you to them?
Brittany:
There's just this sense that we are all on the same page and that we get it and that things are. They feel complete.
Amy Babish:
Okay. So whenever you're ready, you can say to all of them, my gosh. Yeah. I have been entangled with all of your souls. All this whole lineage, this whole blood lineage, all of these, the roots of this past life that go back to the 1100s again. And I take the soul fractals back and allow them to come home to me. And the butterflies can help. Yeah.
Brittany:
Yeah. Now it's like all the butterflies are flocking to me.
Amy Babish:
Yeah. You get A butterfly bath. Yeah. And like, really allow your throat to be fully opened by them and your middle finger. And that the butterflies can do everything on the energetic, spiritual, emotional, metaphysical, human layers. All of it. It.
Brittany:
Wild. I can feel myself, like, almost burping a little bit and yawning. I know that things are changing.
Amy Babish:
Yeah. Things are. Things are happening. And anything else that needs to be named or said with that context?
Brittany:
Well, just the. The one thing that's, I guess, a line that I'm hearing is we don't have to hold on to hate.
Amy Babish:
Yeah. And they can be with the experience of wholeness. Hate is separateness. Hate is confusion.
Brittany:
And they do seem to want to make clear it's not just hate toward others, it's even hate toward.
Amy Babish:
Yes.
Brittany:
Like directed at themselves.
Amy Babish:
Yes. Yeah. Yeah. When we hate others, that's a. A little foreshadowing of how much we hate ourselves.
Brittany:
Yeah.
Amy Babish:
Yeah.
Brittany:
One thing I've noticed about myself, especially with the background in massage therapy, is that I will.
Amy Babish:
My.
Brittany:
My body will move when I'm transmuting things, whether it's for myself or for someone else. And I can actually feel my body going in the figure eight. Wow.
Amy Babish:
We're getting into all the meridians. We're getting into all of the auric field. And we have one more step if it feels appropriate for you.
Brittany:
Yeah, yeah.
Amy Babish:
Okay. So we can just kind of. I can feel that you sense that that line is taken care of. And you've taken all the soul fractals back. So now you're going to step into our current time and you're going to bring your parents and your sibling into the space. And what happens when you see them Now?
Brittany:
The first thing I'm noticing is that my brother doesn't know if he goes behind me or next to me.
Amy Babish:
Yeah. Yeah.
Brittany:
He. He doesn't know where he goes, so.
Amy Babish:
And in real life, what is the biological order?
Brittany:
I am the oldest.
Amy Babish:
Okay. So we're going to ask your parents, did anybody have a baby that was out of wedlock, miscarried or hidden or taken?
Brittany:
I've always had a sense that there was something. And my mom's raising her hand.
Amy Babish:
Okay. And so you can say how many and where were the babies?
Brittany:
She's holding up one finger.
Amy Babish:
Okay.
Brittany:
I don't know that she knows where they go.
Amy Babish:
Okay. And so we can just invite that soul, that baby soul in. And I have a sense it comes before you does that.
Brittany:
Yeah, yeah.
Amy Babish:
So you're actually in the middle.
Brittany:
Yeah. And I've asked about this, but.
Amy Babish:
Yeah. And that might Be its own other constellation.
Brittany:
Yeah.
Amy Babish:
It's a deep process, but just. Just for today, because your brother's pointing out that that's part of the confusion when. When there's a confusion of who's the. Who's the big one and who's the little one or who's the sibling, that's usually a sign that there's a baby that's been omitted. And so we'll just. We'll have that baby, your older sibling, be here. The soul for now. And now that that context is there, what would you like to say to your brother and your parents?
Brittany:
Honestly, the biggest thing is just I've spent so much time there in that mess that I'm so ready to move forward and just have my life be mine.
Amy Babish:
Yeah.
Brittany:
And that doesn't mean that I don't love them.
Amy Babish:
Yeah. Yeah. I love you. And I see that you gave me life. You can say that to your parents first. And I'm bringing back with me from the work I just did the butterfly alchemy to transmute everything that played out between us and my brother and the baby that was omitted, I'm bringing that alchemy back into this lineage.
Brittany:
They just kind of, like, sighed. And they look a little relieved, actually.
Amy Babish:
Yeah. You can say, like, there still might be other layers of work to do, and this primary one, where I am tethered to the mess that lived in these blood lines, it's complete. And so, first, you can say to your parents, I take my life back from. From both of you, and I'm going to live it on my terms, and I'm going to create the family that I know I'm worthy of with my beloved, with my partner, whatever. However you want to say it. And the little. The little girl who's been waiting to be my baby, I invite her to come in, and I invite us to find the most amazing home for our family.
Brittany:
That one feels pretty big.
Amy Babish:
Yeah. Yeah. And if your parents are able to extend the blessing to you to live that life, I invite them to do that. They might not be able to do that in real life, but in this space, they can do it. What happens?
Brittany:
They were a little hesitant, but they're like Yeah.
Amy Babish:
Yeah. It's okay. It's a brand new thing for them, a brand new skill set. And what do they need to say to your brother around all this?
Brittany:
Almost like the same goes for you.
Amy Babish:
Yeah.
Brittany:
Because I think I've been rebelling against it, and I don't know that he wants to or knows how to.
Amy Babish:
Yeah. And what can they say to him about his relationship with you.
Brittany:
That they're going to stop projecting.
Amy Babish:
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they're gonna also say in their own way, we're sorry we confused you about the birth order. You're the little one. Britney is the middle one. And the. The baby that's not here is the oldest. And there's so many more work to be done, but for now, that's. That's.
Amy Babish:
That will help him and it will help you. And they can say, you can stop fighting against Britney. She's not your enemy. You can stop trying to control her. You can stop vying for attention from us for her. You can stop suffering in plain sight. And is there anything else you need to say or want to say?
Brittany:
The thing about trust being broken, that. I know that that happened, but we. We can start from scratch.
Amy Babish:
Well, that the trust broken has deep roots that go beyond anything they could have complicated. Yeah. So it played out in this lifetime in this way, and it didn't belong to me or to them.
Brittany:
Yeah.
Amy Babish:
And that, you know, the butterfly alchemy is here for us too. That we can move forward with different relationships, with more whole relationships where we're not looking to find a person to blame.
Brittany:
I just feel there's less tension. It just feels more flowy.
Amy Babish:
Yeah. Yeah. Is there anything else? So now you can invite in your partner and you can say to him in your own words, I'm clear. I am. I'm free to be me now. I won't be. I won't be taken back into the mess anymore.
Brittany:
He seems really relieved.
Amy Babish:
Yeah. Yeah. He wanted this for you. Yeah. And is there anything else he wants to say to you or you want to say to him? You can say, I'm ready. I'm ready to find the house and I'm ready to get married and have the baby. Have our baby. Our baby girl.
Brittany:
Even in real life, he does this thing where he'll, like, roll his eyes. He's like, you're just manifesting a girl. I'm like, no, I've already met her.
Amy Babish:
Yeah, you can say. You don't have to believe me. I'm not here to convince you. She's already here.
Brittany:
Yes.
Amy Babish:
Yeah. It's not about the gender. That's just who. Who chose you. Yeah. And anything else?
Brittany:
Everything feels really good.
Amy Babish:
Okay. So we can begin to close up the space and the portal and know that the butterflies can be with you. All the wisdom, all the transformation, all the alchemy and your new home, the inevitable marriage and your baby girl are finding you through all Time and space.
Brittany:
That felt like a huge weight.
Amy Babish:
Yeah. Yeah.
Brittany:
That one was messy. Oh, my gosh.
Amy Babish:
You can't. We don't do video for this, but we see each other. You just, like, look to the side. Like, her eyes. Like, whoa. Like, whoa.
Brittany:
Oh, man.
Amy Babish:
Sipping water. I'm sipping tea. She's sipping water. Yeah. So you ready? Like, what. What do you want to name? What questions do you have?
Brittany:
I. There's something there with that kid thing. And asked several times. And the thing that was coming to me even as you were. We were kind of wrapping up with them, was going back to the last. The last call.
Amy Babish:
Yeah. The last consolation.
Brittany:
Yeah. That even recognizing the signs that I was having in the miscarriage would have been too hard for her.
Amy Babish:
Yeah.
Brittany:
And I get the sense that she also didn't tell anyone.
Amy Babish:
Oh, yeah.
Brittany:
And. And, like, blocked it.
Amy Babish:
She was too. Too young.
Brittany:
Blocked it. Completely blocked it.
Amy Babish:
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can feel it my whole body when you say that.
Brittany:
Yeah. I'm getting, like, shaky again.
Amy Babish:
Yeah, yeah.
Brittany:
There's something.
Amy Babish:
Yeah.
Brittany:
Which just the another thing that was happening was this sense of, like, I knew something was going on, but also, I don't need to know the story, and it's okay. And just having that acknowledged seemed to be enough for her.
Amy Babish:
Yeah. And, you know, like, that's the confusion about a lot of things you would Google. There's a big dog. I have my windows open, and we talked about, if there's too much noise, we'll close it. But that dog is like a representation, I think, in the field of. We don't actually have to tell the story.
Brittany:
So.
Amy Babish:
Yeah, I'm gonna close my window for that. We got. We got. We got the note. So when, you know, there's a time and a place that telling our story creates connection and empathy. But if this is what I say to all my groups, if it was about telling our story, we'd all be healed.
Brittany:
Right.
Amy Babish:
That's the irony in the paradox that one of my mentors and I'll. I'll get this in the show notes for us. One of my mentors shared a scientific article that talks about every second, the brain processes 10 bits of data, whereas the body absorbs, metabolizes 10 billion parts of data per second. God. So this work is in and of the physical body, the energy body, the emotional body, and the brain's habitual way of needing to know and understand and analyze. That's really not where this is at. Yeah. So I'm so glad that you could, like, have that deeper.
Amy Babish:
Like Brittany knowing Like, your wisdom is like, I actually don't need to know what happened. There's enough resonance in the field that we know that these parts were connected. Something really horrific happened. And that's enough, like, rehashing. How did it happen? Why did it happen? That we don't need to know that for this for her or for you or for the millions of people in between.
Brittany:
There's a lot of people in a.
Amy Babish:
Room in your soul lineage or in your bad lineages. Like, that's. That's like. We're into, like, probably close to, like 100 million people from those felt like it. Those three lines. Like, that's a lot of people. So, yeah, yeah, yeah. What else?
Brittany:
But I think that's why.
Amy Babish:
Oh, yeah, that.
Brittany:
I think that's why for me, talk therapy never felt like the thing. I always. There was some knowing that it was like, in my tissue.
Amy Babish:
It's in the cellular body, as we would say. So in. In all of the wisdom traditions know that. It's. It's in the soul level, it's in the epigenetics, it's in your tissue, it's in your bones, it's in your blood, it's in your organs, and then it goes up to the thoughts. It's not thought down. It's not top down, as we would say as trauma therapist. It's not top down processing.
Amy Babish:
It's not what's going to help this.
Brittany:
It is not. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That felt like a lot. I mean, is that normal for there to be that many?
Amy Babish:
Oh, I mean, this is. This is my humility. You know, I'm always both the teacher and the student. And I come by my work honestly, and I have a very complex soul, very complex soul path. And I come by this honestly. And when I do my processes, my own personal processes, they're very complex. And, you know, kind of my boomerang or my, you know, whatever. Whatever my magnet is of who I'm meant to support in this lifetime.
Amy Babish:
I call in people with very complex soul paths. And so other people doing constellation work, we're not. I'm not better or worse than them, but we're just very different. They might really just work in the bloodlineage. They might just work in, like, the layer of parents, siblings, cousins, aunties, uncles, grandparents, great grandparents, the land. Those are great things. And the kind of person that comes to see me, their soul curriculum is quite complex, and they signed up for a lot. They're like, I'm gonna tie up everything from many lifetimes in this one.
Amy Babish:
As A matter of fact. So people who have really powerful astrology charts, they come by this honestly, this work can be very helpful for that.
Brittany:
What do some of those things look like? The complex astrology chart?
Amy Babish:
Oh, just we were talking about it before, like Scorpio and Pluto or, you know, those kind of things, or just like a lot of tension, a lot of squares. What's cracking you about this?
Brittany:
Okay, so I have Pluto in Scorpio in my second house. But the tension thing, I have what's called a stellium. So there's lots of things in Capricorn and I have lots of things in Cancer which are opposite of each other. And they're like, literally there's a tension in my chart.
Amy Babish:
Yes. The goat is going up the mountain and struggling like Sisyphus. And then the crab is like, I'm gonna get you. Crack, crack, crack, crack, crack. So it's like, that's a lot of tension. And when we have, I think it was in, in December when we have the New Moon in the, in the period of Capricorn, which is like the New Moon in Cancer in the period of Capricorn. That is super complicated. And that's your life.
Brittany:
I felt it.
Amy Babish:
That's your life. So those kind of things. There are many ways. People that come with really complex health challenges, people that come with fertility challenges, when you have like a really big thing that everyone else, they're like, it doesn't look so hard. It might be complex, but not so hard. That is when we know this is probably multifaceted, multi layered, maybe even multi dimensional. So that's a major difference with how I facilitate constellation work. The alchemy, the alchemical part.
Amy Babish:
Very different flavor. Yeah, very different flavor.
Brittany:
Very needed. For some of us, yes.
Amy Babish:
For some of us who are like, I've literally thrown everything and I believe in myself and I'm worthy. And you're like, why isn't that. Why isn't the Neo moving? And you know, the, the sorrow that I hold is that there are a lot of really well intentioned people who are like, oh, you should do this. Or if you just look in the mirror every day, like start, smiling like, I'm good enough and smarter life and goddammit, people like me. Like, it's just. That works for some people, but people with an ancestral entanglement that won't touch. Touch it.
Brittany:
Yeah, yeah. Even. Even with my history of like body work and stuff like that, I. Even now I'm like, yeah, that wasn't going to scratch the surface of it, but it helped. You had intention.
Amy Babish:
It helped with other things. Like I was, you know, primarily a somatic trauma therapist and art therapist for a long time. I'm also a tantric coach. I've thrown everything at things. Like I'm an NLP practitioner. Everything, everything, everything. And sometimes it just is going to be some constellation work.
Brittany:
Yeah.
Amy Babish:
Are you ready for the cards? Because last time Brittany's like, you didn't pull cards. So when I pull cards before I do a constellation, I don't always share it. Not everyone's aligned with this. Britney is deeply aligned with this very.
Brittany:
Yes.
Amy Babish:
So the first card I pull is what is at the base of the entanglement for Brittany. And so I'm going to let her see it first. So it is the two of pentacles. And I use the wild unknown deck by Kim Kranz. And it's animals and it is a butterfly.
Brittany:
That's crazy.
Amy Babish:
With two pentacles. And so in this way it's like choices and financial difficult, financial difficulty. Like someone who can't make up their mind swimming back and forth and then resentment and believe. People believe that who are being ignored. You could have overexerted yourself financially. Like these things were at the base of maybe why that man and that lineage was making those choices. We didn't get into that, but I could feel that. Like, it was so complex.
Amy Babish:
But then we. But then we had the butterfly alchemy. So I was like, thank you. Butterflies.
Brittany:
That's crazy. And it has the infinity thing on it.
Amy Babish:
Yes, and it has the infinity thing in it too. A rainbow.
Brittany:
And then, then I.
Amy Babish:
The second card I pull is what is the resource for this ancestral entanglement. And so I pulled. It's the sun or the knight of swords.
Brittany:
Ah, with an owl.
Amy Babish:
With an owl. And so this card, when I sat with it, it's like eminent arrival, departure of an intention, urgent serious situation. And so we went in and we did the work. So that was the resource. I could tell that it was going to be deep. I didn't know if it was just your blood lineage or just your soul lineage. And I could feel that kind of. We went in with the swift energy, and that wasn't me.
Amy Babish:
That was the energy presenting itself, the systemic field presenting itself. So I felt like that was happening. And then my third card I pull is what is. What is the most aligned forward movement for Brittany?
Brittany:
Okay, you're smiling.
Amy Babish:
Yeah. So I pulled the four of wands.
Brittany:
Oh, cool.
Amy Babish:
And the four of wands is about stability and it's about everything's all will be well. I started like, I was like, oh my gosh. And it's home. And it's. If you're considering moving into a house, it's like it's really gonna happen. And it's a good omen. And it's like really about family.
Brittany:
That is so cool. My jaws dropped. It also looks like the, that like eye. The protection.
Amy Babish:
Yes.
Brittany:
It's kind of like Greek.
Amy Babish:
Yes. It's like the evil eye. The God's eye has different names.
Brittany:
It's.
Amy Babish:
It's in a diamond and it has rays of light and then four wands or beautiful sticks with a really poignant blue burst in the middle.
Brittany:
That is so cool.
Amy Babish:
So there we are.
Brittany:
How about that? I've been seeing a lot of owls more so like online scrolling things like that. And there had been a lot of owls and I forgot about that until right now. That makes a lot of sense.
Amy Babish:
And I have owls that live around me and so they come and talk. They've been talking to me since your constellation at like 4 and 5 in the morning.
Brittany:
Yeah.
Amy Babish:
They've been in the field for us. So here we have it.
Brittany:
That is wild. I'm so glad you pulled the cards. That's so cool. I forgot you said that.
Amy Babish:
Look, this is important for today. I could feel it. This is very clear. Is there anything else you want to name? Any other questions you have?
Brittany:
Is there anything that you would recommend doing between now and the next one? I mean, I, I don't know what happens from here.
Amy Babish:
Right. I would just say we're doing a three part series. So always drinking a lot of water. And this isn't necessarily for you, but for the listeners, abstaining from as much substance as possible. So caffeine, alcohol, medicinal drugs that are plant medicine, AKA plant medicine, don't want to do anything like that. You want to really let your body gently integrate and you spend a lot of time in nature. You already drink water so you, you, you know how to integrate and just inviting like I want to notice from this place the forward movement.
Brittany:
Okay.
Amy Babish:
And you can invite the butterflies to come in as a resource and be really gentle. I can feel like a lot of heart tending happened. Be really gentle with your heart and you might just spend like a lot of time in silence where like when you're nature like no music, no podcasts or you know, when you have some downtime just like letting your body release, however you like to do that. Those would be my first thoughts.
Brittany:
Okay, that's cool. Also, I forgot today was the first Day that I saw the hummingbird came back in our yard.
Amy Babish:
The ancestors are coming.
Brittany:
They are? Yeah, yeah.
Amy Babish:
And yeah, I think just keep keeping a log of what you notice and you can ask the field, help me to know when the next constellation should be.
Brittany:
Okay.
Amy Babish:
And you, you might unfortunately hit a roadblock that is like, okay, now that everything has been been rearranged, the next thing that's like, there's forward movement and then a contraction happens for things to reorganize and integrate. So rather than having to like suffer through the contraction, you can reach out and we can kind of start to strategize about when the third one should be.
Brittany:
Okay. Okay.
Amy Babish:
Because that's inevitable.
Brittany:
Yeah.
Amy Babish:
Expansion, contraction are the nature of this work because we've been contracted and now we just expanded and now things get to like dissolve and dissipate and go outside of the field and go into the rightful place. And so then as you move forward, it's like, okay, now the next ancestral integral, it's like, hey, I'm ready for help. That's the way I see it. It's not like you've done anything wrong. No one's done anything bad. Like, that's just the inevitable part of the process.
Brittany:
Yeah. Which is funny because you think that healing is this like upward trajectory and it's just like not.
Amy Babish:
It's just not. It's so multidimensional. It's so many timelines. How could it ever be linear?
Brittany:
Yeah, that's true.
Amy Babish:
Yeah, that's very true. Okay, well, thank you so much to Brittany and thank you to those of you that have joined us for this expansive three part series. We're in part two. And wherever you are in your own journey around alchemy, around suffering in silence, around being boomeranged back into your family's mess or your ancestry's mess, I hope that you receive some alchemy from this. And if you are called to work with me, I am beginning to offer a three part package of constellation work. It's three two hour sessions with the ritual with to be used within 60 calendar days. So if that speaks to you, you can reach out to me, you can email me amy mebabish.com and check out my website. And I can't wait to see you for our next episode and for the follow up of Brittany's third session, whatever that divine timing is.
Amy Babish:
Until then, sending you so many blessings. That's all for this episode of the Soulful Visionary podcast podcast. If you found value in today's episode and are ready to delve deeper into aligning your inner world and environment. Please subscribe to this podcast on your favorite podcast platform. Your subscription helps us to reach more soulful visionaries like yourself, and if you've been inspired by what you heard, I'd be incredibly grateful if you could leave a review. Your feedback not only helps others discover this podcast, but also guides me in creating content that truly resonates with you. I'll catch you in the next episode as we continue to unlock the love, purpose and fulfillment you deeply crave.