I Put My Energy into Everyone but Me
“I’m the person that's holding everybody else's storyline together—and I want to live in mine.”
I’m here today with someone who serendipitously found me through another podcast!
Ashley has done constellation work with me before, but this type of session was a first for her.
When we set the intention to do alchemical constellation work, the ancestors show up—and sometimes they show up in very unexpected ways.
We begin with Ashley sharing just one of the ways her systemic field has been speaking to her…
You’ll especially want to tune into this client session if you, too:
» find it difficult to let others into your life
» want to lean into your main character energy
» feel the need to micromanage an experience for others
» struggle to balance the serious and playful sides of yourself
» desire to be your real authentic self without having to meet an expectation
Topics covered in this podcast episode:
How ancestors begin to communicate with you between constellation sessions
How to recognize when something is the ancestral field vs a person currently in your life
How to become aware of an entanglement in the moment
How the work of constellation work ripples out to the rest of the family
One of the biggest giveaways that there’s resistance in the field
The importance of getting clear on what you do want
The different ways people “get” information during constellation work
Ways to reassure the field that there won’t be judgement, guilt, or shame
How to know what’s true about the information coming through in a session
If part of constellation work is going back and re-writing events that happened
How constellation work can be supportive for childhood trauma
Why it’s so much easier to express yourself in the liminal space of a constellation session
A ritual to close out an alchemical constellation session
I think this session is going to touch so many lives! There are many people I work with who realize that their way of “being” is just to be on all the time.
Or who may have kept their mom, dad, or someone else on the hook (so to speak) for something that happened early in life—only to later realize that they were entangled with an ancestor or past life version of themselves.
There were so many relatable themes here today! From struggles with over-giving, over responsibility, self-punishment, being disconnected from your magic, moving as a child, not being connected to one parent as a child, being an outlaw in some way…
I hope that this episode was meaningful and that you received the beautiful resources and forward movement for your own life.
To book your own 3-session constellation process, explore the Alchemical Constellation Gateway here.
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Until we meet again, sending you blessings from the Doeg land that I steward, and water to quench whatever you've been thirsty for.
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The unedited podcast transcript for this episode of The Soulful Visionary Podcast follows
Amy Babish:
Have you ever felt like there's something more just waiting to be unlocked in your life? Like no matter how much you've accomplished, a deeper potential is calling. Welcome to the Soulful Visionary Podcast, where I guide you to align with your authentic self and create a life of purpose, love, and lasting impact. A life where you can truly soar beyond what your mind can comprehend. I'm your host, Amy Babish, a licensed psychotherapist and an expert in somatic coaching, feng shui, and wisdom traditions. With over 20 years of experience guiding thousands of clients through soul level transformation. Each week, we'll dive into potent practices, live client sessions, and insightful conversations to help you dissolve intergenerational patterns and transcend your upper limits so that you can live the big life you are meant to live. Tune in and let's unlock your inner wisdom together. Welcome in to the Soulful Visionary Podcast.
Amy Babish:
I'm your host, Amy Babish, and I am here today with someone who serendipitously found me from another podcast, and then she found my podcast, and then she's now done work with me since then. And welcome in. Ashley. I'm so excited for you to be here.
Ashley:
Thank you. I'm so excited to be here with you, Amy.
Amy Babish:
So right before we got on, I said, is there anything you want to share before we get on? And Ashley's like, I don't know if I can share this on the podcast. And then I was like, please share this on the podcast, because it basically is what happened to her last night before this podcast, which is it's going to be a constellation podcast. And when we set an intention to do constellation work, the ancestors show up in very peculiar ways, very unexpected ways. And so, Ashley, I'm going to invite you to share in your own way what happened last night.
Ashley:
Okay. All right. This is pretty vulnerable. Well, you can share it with.
Amy Babish:
You know what. What feels important is like, you have asked for something for a long time, and then it came in a different form and it. And a different kind of response came.
Ashley:
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. So, yeah, so I am going to just share it the way that I shared it with you, and then, like, people can just take it for what it is because it feels like it's probably important for somebody. Yeah. I mean, it's wild how. I mean, the. And you and I have been doing this work together now for a little while, and so I am. I have become a person who notices when my ancestors are communicating with me.
Ashley:
And so it did take me a little while last night. To realize that that's what this was. But that's, that's. I realized that that's what it was, so. And funny enough, it happened before my last constellation. With you as well. Yeah. When we were at the retreat.
Ashley:
So this. Of something kind of similar. So they communicate with me in this. In this way. Apparently so. Yeah. So here's what happened. I had a really, really long weekend.
Ashley:
I'll just say that. And I was really excited to go to sleep and looking forward, you know, knowing that I had this today and had wanted to get a couple sleep cycles in. I was like, you know, really, really loyal to this idea of getting enough sleep last night. And about 11 o', clock, my husband woke me up in a way that he's not done ever really before, despite my asking him to do it, you know, but so, so he, he was, he was ready to have sex. And, and I was furious. I was so angry because I didn't, you know, my sleep, that I was very committed to was not gonna happen. Despite rejecting him even. Yeah.
Ashley:
So I was awakened by, by my husband's erection. Yeah. And after two hours of stewing in the anger of that, I realized that my ancestors were helping me align on my intention for today. And my intention today is to lean into my main character energy. Okay. And my husband has very strong main character.
Amy Babish:
Yes, he does. And I know her husband, so I can agree with that.
Ashley:
Yes. And he, and, and his, and that action last night, of course, it's not his fault at all. Like, whatever. It, it's desire, it's whatever. And, and I think I'm. In retrospect. Yeah. I mean, I think it just all makes sense now.
Ashley:
Does that? Did I say enough? Amy?
Amy Babish:
I tried to, like, so just to fill in the gaps a little bit. And you can, you can interrupt me and, you know, make the nuance yours, Ashley. But for listeners, many people don't realize that they are steeping in the soup of their ancestors and they think, oh, it's my husband. Oh, it's sleep. Oh, it's this. Oh, it's that when, when the threads and the intersectionality of when we go to move forward in a really big way and you're, you're, you have a clear intention and we're going to get more into the intention. But my main character energy. What can happen when you don't have a understanding of how complex ancestral interactions are? You could have easily made it like, my husband is ruining my sleep.
Amy Babish:
That could have been a story. Yes.
Ashley:
For two hours I was, I was.
Amy Babish:
You were in it. You were in it. You could have made it. Like, I've asked to be woken up to have hot sex in the middle of the night after 3am you guys have been together for a really long time, and that it happens in this way. So it's like another story could have come up. Like, I never can have things the way I want. It always happens another way.
Ashley:
And that happened, too.
Amy Babish:
Yes. So. So when we are living our life and we go into story, not just about our partners, but about colleagues, about friends, about family, we are almost, like, convicted that this is the truth. And then you have this amazing ability to come back to yourself from doing this work and noticed powerfully, like, whoa, this is actually my ancestral field. And you're not someone who's like, quote, unquote, seeing the ancestors, but you have the awareness, the confluence of. I'm about to do this constellation tomorrow. We see through their eyes, we hear through their brain, their ears. We notice things when we are entangled, as if it's us, just me and my husband.
Amy Babish:
And so this is such a powerful share for people who have maybe tried everything in a marriage. That's not your why you're here, but people who are convicted, like, I always get this result. I never get what I want. Those are oftentimes very powerful ancestral entanglements that have nothing to do with belief work, mantras, somatic work. I think this is a really, really, really powerful lead in.
Ashley:
Hmm. Good. Yeah.
Amy Babish:
Thank you.
Ashley:
I'm glad it's helpful. And it's true, I was very much in story in the beginning, and. But then it was so interesting because that anger, and I was feeling it in places I don't normally feel it. So, I mean, my heart hurt. Like, I felt. It was just a really dramatic reaction for what happened. Um, and then that was kind of my clue, like, oh, okay, there's something bigger going on here. But it did take me about two hours to arrive at that.
Ashley:
And I was like, okay, I'm laying in my bed, and I'm like, all right, how am I going to deal with this? I got to go back to sleep. I got to figure out how I'm going to move past this right now. What could this be? Like, what is happening? And all of a sudden, I start getting all these visuals, and it's like. It's like the ancestors were like, okay, we got her, we got her. Okay, now here's the time. Like, let's throw all this stuff at her right now.
Amy Babish:
Yeah, yeah.
Ashley:
It was like I was like, my cat you know, it was like clues, you know, of all these things that they know now that are like messages like that I connect with all kind of came in all at once. And I'm like, all right, that's what this is. Okay, I'm gonna calm down, I'm gonna go have a drink of water. I'm gonna like. And then I listen to your insight timer green resourcing and my headphones. And then, and then I journaled and, and then it all came out. It's like, okay, yes, this is what am I resentful for? It is my husband's main character energy right now. I am angry at him for that, but that's not his fault.
Ashley:
That's something that I want, that's envy and I want that in my own life. And, and, and it, and then when I reflected back on that, my intention for reaching out to you to do this constellation today, it's directly related to that. So thank you ancestors for making that very, very clear. Like absolutely unmistakable that that's what I'm here to do today. Yeah.
Amy Babish:
And there's some, you know, there's a little bit of tears coming. Like it's very powerful to realize and be able to like work, work that through. Even though it was two hours and it's sucks in the middle of the night, but you got to what you needed to get to. And so we're here now and so you need a little bit of what gets in the way. So there's resentment of his energy, of his main character energy. But for listeners, can you share what else gets in the way for you when you go to be embody, move forward with your own main character energy.
Ashley:
Yeah. So, ah, so I think the, the, the big resistance that I have is, is I struggle to feel, to be both soft and serious at the same time. And as a self employed person, I'm pretty much working 24 hours a day, seven days a week. I get in that serious mode and I can't, I stop having fun and I stop being playful. Even though that's a part of me that, you know, the people that, who are closest to me know and love. So I, it, I struggle to let people in to my life. Sorry. It's tender.
Amy Babish:
It'S really honest, it's really, yeah.
Ashley:
You know, holding friendships even though I really want them. I think telling my story, being my authentic, real human self to people without, you know, feeling like I need to perform or meet an expectation that they have of me. And I'm always kind of scanning to like manage other People's expectations when I'm in that mode of, of. So it's just, it's. I've so, so what's ultimately. What ultimately happens is I end up being in this support role because I'm trying to manage everybody else's expectations. And when this became really, it really became really obvious that, you know, it, it was work for a constellation. I was actually on vacation, vacation, quote, unquote vacation.
Ashley:
Again, self employed. A couple weeks ago. And I was working. We were at the beach. I was. But I was working at the same time. And my kids, who are adults, but they were, we were all together and they're like, oh my gosh, mom. You're just like, you're always on.
Ashley:
You're always on. And I really, I could just sense almost like exhaustion in them from like witnessing me in that mode. Yeah. Which is, it's hard. Sorry. Give me a second.
Amy Babish:
This is this. Actually, I think this is going to touch so many listeners I work with, so many people who have just their way of being is just to be on all the time.
Ashley:
Yeah.
Amy Babish:
I think another layer that will touch for people is, you know, I was raised by a single mother. Many people in this, in this community of listeners have had moms who had to just be on all the time if they were single moms or not.
Ashley:
Yeah. Yeah.
Amy Babish:
I think part of what, what, what I support people through is like, especially when there has not been a significant trauma for clients, just seeing a mom that has to be shut down emotionally all the time and not in her full essence. It creates confusion in adult children. Yeah, it really does. The work you're doing is powerful for you and your kids, but also for everyone who's listening that probably had some version of a flavor of one of these threads. So thank you for being really, really honest because I think a lot of people want deeper friendships. But listen, I think a lot of people want to be their whole selves, their embodied selves especially, no matter if they're self employed or no matter where they are in the world. Like, times are hard and how can we be ourselves no matter what? So I think that you're bringing many, many meaningful, meaningful threads right now.
Ashley:
Yeah. Thank you. Yeah, I mean, I think I want. My kids are so in college. Both of them are in college now. And I also have two step kids that are in college. And you know, we want our kids to have joyful lives, you know, and what they're witnessing in me is confusing for them. And I, I realize that I do have a lot of joy in my life.
Ashley:
Then I realized it doesn't always appear that way. So, yeah, I just would love, I would love to be able to. To hold the serious and the soft at the same time and create, you know, just more joy beam, beam out and make it more outwardly apparent to the people that matter most to me. Yeah.
Amy Babish:
And you know that you, you answered my next question because I'm sure the listeners are like, what does main character energy mean for her? Because that's different for everybody. And you know, one of the things that, one of the questions I, that comes up when I listen is, you know, soft and serious are not necessarily two points of the continuum. They're not binary. So do you have a sense of when I say those words, what might you want around your main. Main character energy?
Ashley:
Yeah. So I think where I see myself right now is just being the person that's holding everybody else's storyline together and, and I want to live in mine, you know, um, and I think I've also, when it comes to, like, the soft and serious, you're right, they're not like, necessarily opposites or binary by, by any means, but it feels like that to me. And I think it's because I've, I've associated or I do associate sometimes softness with weakness. And I've got a lot of life experience that's kind of like actual lived experience that has made that evident to me. And so there's just this expectation that if I'm, if I'm silly, if I'm nerd, you know, in a business sense, if I bring in that nurturing energy or, you know, for me, I, I was a, a, A little girl who grew up in West Virginia. I'll just, I'm going to give some background, whatever. People could know who I am, if they know who I am, whatever. I grew up in West Virginia originally, but I moved across the state when I was a kid.
Ashley:
And so from one side of the state to the other side of the state, and one side of the state had an accent. The other side of the state didn't have an accent. So I was in sixth grade. I walk into my sixth grade class on the very first day and I think I asked for a spoon for my pudding, but I think I said it with an accent. And my sixth grade teacher was like, oh, you're, you're so sweet. Well, bless your heart, you're not from here, are you? And she knew it right away because I had an accent from being on the other side of the state. And, and that's happened to me lots of times, you know, in my life. Anytime that accent would come out, people would think I was not smart smart or, you know, or if I was silly, people would, you know, have a different.
Ashley:
I, I worked, I worked in the corporate world for many years. If, if that, that softer side of me came out, it would change. I could witness it changing the way that people perceived me. And so somewhere along the way, I just kind of learned to tuck that away and, and work is work is work. I turn it on and I can't hold the other one at the same time. But now that I'm self employed and working 24 7, it's. I have to be able to hold both in order for that to it. Because I can't be serious all the time.
Amy Babish:
What if it's, what if it's actually not about holding Ashley?
Ashley:
Hmm. Okay.
Amy Babish:
Cause what you're kind of starting to, you're, you're sharing some of the entanglement. So this is, this is your lived experience and this is really important for listeners. Sometimes the entanglement is there from get go, but sometimes it shows up at a certain time in our life. Like what, what Ashley had last night. Um, yeah, but this part around the softness. If we would take a hundred people that had that same move, not everybody would have that same reaction.
Ashley:
Sure.
Amy Babish:
Yeah, like that same. That wouldn't have that lived experience. And so oftentimes. Oh, go ahead.
Ashley:
No, like where. You mean like where I felt like I had to change myself.
Amy Babish:
Yes.
Ashley:
Or because of one person's reaction to.
Amy Babish:
Me or, you know, this happens with clients all the time that, let's say speaking up about really complex issues, issues of justice at work. Some people can speak about it and there's absolutely no charge. Other people speak about it and it is the worst thing ever. And it's the same content. And so what I'm saying for yours is like if we would have had kids with the same accent, that same teacher would have had different reactions to different kids based on entanglements.
Ashley:
Okay, Yeah, I see.
Amy Babish:
So it's not that your react, your reaction was part of that entanglement and so part of, part of, part of the intention. It's like if you. Because holding even takes a lot of energy. So if you, if you are allowed to be you as all of you and you don't have to be on all the time, what would you, what would you like to use that energy for? Because I don't know if you. It's. I don't know if it's about holding things.
Ashley:
Yeah, Right, I see what you're saying.
Amy Babish:
You said, you said you want to live, you want to live.
Ashley:
Joy. I just, I want joy. Yeah. I want to create. I want to. I want to just feel passionate about life and I want to have fun. Yeah. Yeah.
Amy Babish:
And if, if you could, you know, because you're talking about being on all the time with work, how would you like your experience and your relationship with work to evolve? So if you don't want to be on all the time, what would in your. If you have the ability to be self employed, how would you like to structure your exchange with work?
Ashley:
Yeah, so, I mean, so the, A really, a really cool thing is that I, I actually get to work with my husband. So he and I are a team and we have, we are. We're real estate agents, so giving away even more. But we have this kind of yin and yang quality between us that works really well when we're both in alignment and we bring our own kind of magic and unique strengths to our clients. And so when we're in alignment and when I'm not feeling like I have to manage everybody's expectations and kind of control, like just control everything.
Amy Babish:
This is fast.
Ashley:
What? So I'm back.
Amy Babish:
The wildest thing just happened. I was just saying to the listeners you started to talk about, the last thing we heard was, I wrote it down. You and your husband bring our own magic and unique strengths. And literally your screen froze.
Ashley:
So I said, oh, no.
Amy Babish:
Well, it gets even more wild. So I said, now we're in the entanglement because oftentimes the ancestors will come in and stop. Stop everything. So not. You stopped, but I was kicked out too.
Ashley:
Oh, no. I have full bars.
Amy Babish:
I have updated my interwebs because of all the virtual work I do. So this tells us there's resistance in the field around this. There is. So we're on. It's like we're in the hot spot. Yeah, I could feel. It's not that you. It's not that you can't wanna have main character energy, but it's like there's a lot more nuance and a lot more life force that comes through when you speak about you want joy, you want to create, and then you want.
Amy Babish:
You have this partnership. And I don't know what you said after that, but that's really important. So when you're in your. Your alignment, you have this magic and then what did you share?
Ashley:
Yeah. So we're, we're like yin and yang because we have our own unique strengths. And, um, and we. The magic that we're able to provide to our clients, that, that and. And a different perspective that works really well when we're both fully aligned. Um, so.
Amy Babish:
So if you. If. If I was talking about, like, if it's not that you have to be on all the time. Cause that's just how you've navigated self employment.
Ashley:
Yeah.
Amy Babish:
What would you desire to, like, if you're gonna rebalance things, rearrange things, what would you desire with your life force, with wanting to be all of you?
Ashley:
What would that look like? Just to be able to show up in my magic every day. Because what's so amazing about it is that he can show up in his magic, I show up in mine, and we are like the perfect combination for every client that we work, that. That. That comes to us, you know, that ends up being welcomed into our ecosystem. Um, and it works really well. So. Yeah, I mean, if I. If I didn't.
Ashley:
If I didn't feel the need to, like, manage him and manage. You know, and I. And I end up getting in this mode of, like, even managing the client's experience. Like, I just get like. Like.
Amy Babish:
Just micromanage.
Ashley:
Yeah. Micromanage. Yes. That's good. I was gonna say controlling, but that doesn't feel quite right. Micromanagy. Yes. Of.
Ashley:
Of the experience. And, like, and I for a long time thought, like, oh, I'm just like, curating this experience for these clients. And so it gave me a, like an out for why I needed to be so intense about the whole thing. But no, I'm just being controlling, I think, unnecessarily. So. Because I'm. I'm stuck on this.
Amy Babish:
This is the entanglement.
Ashley:
Yes.
Amy Babish:
So. So we get to ask who. Who was the one that had to control to survive? That's part of what we're going to journey with.
Ashley:
Okay.
Amy Babish:
Are we ready to go in? We were already in, but go in deeper, I should say.
Ashley:
Yeah.
Amy Babish:
You have any questions before we go in deeper?
Ashley:
No, I'm just. I'm. I have. I have a little bit of anxiety over what if I don't see anything. But we're. We're just gonna do it and we're gonna.
Amy Babish:
Yeah, and I think that's good because a lot of people, I think they think they have to see things to do this work. And I'm not a seer. Most people I work with are not seers. So it's like, what. What do I notice? What do I feel?
Ashley:
Yeah, my body's really sweaty. That's what I notice right now, there's.
Amy Babish:
A lot of heat coming in. So I think it's important because your ancestors pulled the sound and the recording. It's, you know this, but this part of your field might not know this. Whatever it is, there's no. There's not gonna be judgment. There's not gonna be shame. There's not gonna be criticism. There might have to be accountability, but it's not.
Amy Babish:
It's not that kind of experience. So I think. I think that might help them to feel a little bit more safe, to let us have the process.
Ashley:
Okay. Okay. Yeah.
Amy Babish:
So we're going to do our tune in, and we're going to start to breathe together. We'll do three breaths together, and then we're just going to tune into your intention, into these entanglements, and ask your field to show us what this might be related to and to give it to both of us in a way that we both can receive the tune in with as much clarity as possible. Let me know what you get when you get it, Ashley.
Ashley:
Okay. My hands are shaking, and I can feel my heart in my chest. That's all I'm getting right now.
Amy Babish:
So there's a lot. A lot of, like, a lot of tension, a lot of apprehension. And it's not just your. So you're in it. Would you like to know what I got?
Ashley:
Yes.
Amy Babish:
So I'm not positive about this. Again, like, sometimes it's just, like, breadcrumb trails. So what. Who. Who kind of showed up in my awareness was. She might be Italian or she just might be, like, a woman that's an immigrant. But what she kind of shared with me was that a woman in marriage, the only place that there's power is by nagging, controlling. And she showed me, like, kind of the manipulation of it.
Amy Babish:
Like, I'm soft to get what I want because I don't have any other way to get what I want. And then I'm also. When I don't get what I want, I. Then I punish. I punish myself. I punish others. So that could be part of this. It also could be just someone who's coming in to let me know some things about a bigger context.
Amy Babish:
So it's not. It's never that. It's the truth. It's that this is a part of the systemic field. And what happens for you is that as I share that.
Ashley:
Yeah. So what I. The. The words that I noticed was the. The punish myself, because I think that is a nuance that I didn't really share, but that Is, like, really, really real for me. The. The self punishment. That feels really important.
Ashley:
And yeah.
Amy Babish:
Yeah. I feel like she's letting us know that she's part of this.
Ashley:
Yeah. Like maybe I let. I left that out. Yeah, Yeah. I didn't mean to leave that out, but, yeah, that's important.
Amy Babish:
They keep us honest. So next we're going to go in and we're going to bring your mom behind your left shoulder. And you're asking the essence, not your mom, as you know her consciously, but you know, you're speaking to her true self, her soul, her essence. And you're going to ask her, do you carry this entanglement of controlling, of micromanaging, of not being your whole self of those things? Okay, so your mom says yes, absolutely, yes. Yes, absolutely, yes. Big yes. And then we're going to ask her dad, your biological parents.
Ashley:
Absolutely, yes.
Amy Babish:
Okay.
Ashley:
Okay.
Amy Babish:
So when it is both of our biological parents, we're just going to do the Cliff Notes and bring us to another tune in with your soul.
Ashley:
Yeah.
Amy Babish:
And we'll come back to your parents later on, because in case this is the first time someone's finding this episode, when I do, the way that I do alchemical constellations is if both bloodlines have them, it's my awareness that a person, a soul, and in this case Ashley's soul, selected these blood lineages to not miss certain things. And so she might have worked on this in other lifetimes. It might be the first lifetime she's working on this. We're going to go ask her soul and this tune in to take us to the lifetime where this started for Ashley. And whenever you notice another layer, Ashley, let us know.
Ashley:
Okay. Give me another minute. Okay. So interesting. I feel like I'm in church. I'm not a Catholic person myself, but I have been to Catholic churches where they kneel on the pews and kind of like lean over on the pews to pray and they fold that little thing down like so we're. So I'm like kneeling or maybe, and it feels like it's a more open space. So it's not like confession necessarily, but that's.
Ashley:
I think I'm in a church.
Amy Babish:
Okay.
Ashley:
I got a different flavor, which can.
Amy Babish:
Be part of the field, if you'd like to know about it.
Ashley:
Yeah, I would like to know.
Amy Babish:
So I heard this a little bit when I first tuned in, our first tune in, but then it became a different. Like they took me to another part of the field, but it came back in this. This part of the field. So Sometimes I get music for certain clients, and so I got a song for you. It's Beyonce singing I'll be your shotgun rider till the day I die.
Ashley:
Yeah, that's very different.
Amy Babish:
So I. When they. When that song came through, I'm asking, like, they also said the word outlaw. So I'm. I'm wondering, with your tune in with the. With the Catholic pews and praying, I'm wondering if this past life of yours, you did something that was against the church rules, which makes you feel like an outlaw, and it might be with a partner of some sort. So I'm curious. Those are the questions that come up for me.
Amy Babish:
What happens when I. When I name that?
Ashley:
Okay. So as you were talking, I noticed my body responding again. Like, this heart thing that started last night, the. That it has started again like this. Like, it almost feels painful, like, the way that my heart is feeling in my body at the moment. Yeah. And I don't want to, Like, I'm not. I don't want to try to make meaning that doesn't exist.
Ashley:
So I'm trying, like. So my mind is, like, probably overanalyzing a little bit because I want to, like, make sure that what comes through is. Is real for me. But as you were talking about the partnership, it's. That's. That the feeling that I'm getting in my. In my heart. So that feels.
Ashley:
That feels aligned. That feels right. Okay. Yeah.
Amy Babish:
So we're going to ask your soul to take us, whatever was happening, and to let your soul, the soul fractal of the past life, the way that we can get her or them. We don't know who it is yet. Some relief is to know the context of what happened, what. What this heartbreak with this pain in the heart is about.
Ashley:
Yeah. Okay.
Amy Babish:
Now what happens? And lots of tears.
Ashley:
A little unexpected. Yeah.
Amy Babish:
It's powerful. It's very powerful.
Ashley:
Again, like, I. I'm, like, overanalyzing it, but I guess I got to trust my. My. My body. I think that what. What is. What's coming through is true. So.
Ashley:
And, like, if I say something that's not right, the field's going to correct me.
Amy Babish:
Right.
Ashley:
Like, it's been my experience.
Amy Babish:
Yes, that's.
Ashley:
So the field is pretty.
Amy Babish:
Pretty legit.
Ashley:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because I. Because I feel like, where my brain. I think it was my brain that went there just now, but then, like, these tears came. So it's like the. That's what I'm taking as validation that, like, where my brain just went was correct.
Ashley:
So, like, perhaps. And Field, correct me if I'm wrong, but perhaps I had a partner that, that, that died while. Yeah. Or, or got seriously injured or. Yeah, that died. That died, I think, I think. Yeah, that feels right. So is it because we were.
Ashley:
I'm just going to close my eyes and ask some questions out loud and see if I can try to validate some of this. Is that all right?
Amy Babish:
Go for it. You, you, you listen to what comes through because it feels simple. Like oftentimes not just our blood ancestors, but our soul ancestors wanted to be recognized in specificity.
Ashley:
Yeah.
Amy Babish:
And that is your way. But that's also many ancestors, not all, but many ancestors want to be seen in their wholeness of whatever it was. So ask, ask the questions however you wish.
Ashley:
Yeah. Yeah. So your, so your guidance about the outlaw. I mean, so you're not guidance, but your kind of my.
Amy Babish:
Tune in.
Ashley:
Tune in. Yeah, tune in about the, about the outlaw. So, so what happened for me in my head, I went to a, A couple and, and maybe we were in the Wild west or the. Because I, I can kind of see it now and I don't know that what we were doing was super honest.
Amy Babish:
Work.
Ashley:
But it was work that we were doing. And then is it that he got killed? Yeah, he got shot. And I just feel this like this rocking in my body with like disbelief or grief.
Amy Babish:
So. So you can say, you can say to this past life version of you, actually, you can say first we want to ask her, does she know that she is dead?
Ashley:
No. Yeah. No, I don't think she does.
Amy Babish:
Yeah.
Ashley:
So.
Amy Babish:
So you're going to explain to her that you are Ashley from. You share part of the same soul and you're from the year 2025 and some of your life force is going back to her and this kind of like liminal in between space between life and death.
Ashley:
Oh, she's sad. Yeah. Yeah.
Amy Babish:
So to explain to her that we can, we can get her some help, but she, she has to be willing. So is she willing to receive our help?
Ashley:
Are you willing to receive him? Yeah, Yeah, I think she's willing.
Amy Babish:
So one of the questions that I, I'm hearing as you're starting to meet her is does she blame herself?
Ashley:
Yeah, I think so.
Amy Babish:
Yeah. For her partner dying. And the other question I have is does she have regret about how she treated him at different times? Maybe not all the time, but did she sometimes try and control him?
Ashley:
So what I'm getting and what I started getting like almost immediately was just like what she should have done differently, like what her, like, her regrets, like, why wasn't I there? Why didn't I do this? Why didn't I do that? I should have done this. I should have done that. That was my job kind of thing.
Amy Babish:
We're getting her over responsibility. Responsibility. And so you can say to her, I belong to your sense of over responsibility.
Ashley:
I belong to your sense of over responsibility.
Amy Babish:
And I can try and control everybody and take care of everybody but myself.
Ashley:
I'm taking care of everybody but myself.
Amy Babish:
And it's exhausting me.
Ashley:
It's exhausting.
Amy Babish:
Yeah, I. I belong to your sense of being on all of the time.
Ashley:
Belong to your sense of being on all the time at work. Yeah. She didn't really consider herself that way, but. But yeah, she. I think she appreciates being seen.
Amy Babish:
Yeah. She didn't know about these things and.
Ashley:
Yeah, right.
Amy Babish:
Have some shared consciousness.
Ashley:
So we're.
Amy Babish:
We're helping her out. And you can ask her. You can say, you know, in your own Ashley way, like, I might be going out on limb here, but do you also have a really silly side?
Ashley:
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's fun.
Amy Babish:
So you can say. You can say to her, part of. Part of the dilemma that brought me here is that I have been living a very split life. I can't be my whole self, and I can't let. I can't let my magic fully be with me all the time. Live in me, be with me. Like, I can't let myself be my magic.
Ashley:
Let myself be my magic. Yeah.
Amy Babish:
What did she say?
Ashley:
Yeah, yeah. She's like, I understand that. You know? Yeah. I think she wants to tell me stories. Yeah.
Amy Babish:
And you can ask her, was there a time in her life that she was able to just be her magic or was it always that she couldn't be her. All of her magic?
Ashley:
I think what they do is dangerous.
Amy Babish:
Yes. Yes.
Ashley:
So the danger. The danger made the. The kind of took the fun out of it a little bit. I don't think they ever meant for it to be dangerous, but whatever they do is dangerous now.
Amy Babish:
And can she see? Is there. There. Is there. Is there a ability for her to see the impact of that choice that. That they made together that she said yes to, that shut down her magic.
Ashley:
I think they're bank robbers, Amy.
Amy Babish:
I. I had the sense that that was happening. Yeah.
Ashley:
Oh, yeah. Goodness. Okay. Yeah.
Amy Babish:
And. Yeah, they might have been shot during bank, like a job.
Ashley:
Yeah. Yeah. He was first, though. Yeah.
Amy Babish:
And so you can say to her, I'm living with your self judgment.
Ashley:
Yeah. I'm living with your Self judgment.
Amy Babish:
I'm living with the agony that you have lived with in the afterlife. That you, you're not, you're not at peace in the afterlife. Like the self punishment and the, and the judgment and the not being able to be with your magic and the afterlife. Like I live with all of that agony.
Ashley:
I live with all that agony. Now she, she wants to go back and keep him safe. Yeah.
Amy Babish:
So. So we can say to her, we can't change what happened. We can't change. But we can, we can alchemize something and help her move forward with peace. And we can invite him in when it's time, but we have to sort the two of you out first.
Ashley:
Yeah.
Amy Babish:
So what happens when she hears that?
Ashley:
Oh, she. Yeah, she's just really sad and regretful. But I think the idea of being able to move forward now that she knows she's dead is a.
Amy Babish:
It's a big deal.
Ashley:
A big deal. Yeah.
Amy Babish:
Yeah. So we can ask her first. She might know of a resource that we can invite in that is resonant. I don't know if she was religious or if there was religiosity around her, but given the first tune in with the pews for you, does she feel like she needs to be absolved of her sins?
Ashley:
For sure, yes. She was begging for forgiveness.
Amy Babish:
Okay, so does she. In her own way, does she have a sense of who she'd like to invite in or does she need our.
Ashley:
And she's asking all the saints. She's asking. Yeah, that she's not, not naming anybody. But she's, she was just.
Amy Babish:
I'm feeling. I, I could be wrong. She'll say yes or no. And you, you will also feel it because you share the soul. I'm actually feeling Mary Magdalene and I'm also feeling Our lady of Fatima. So Our lady of Fatima is about bringing peace and helping people to see how they have contributed to something that's not peace. So if she needs us to invite more in, we can. But those two come to mind first.
Ashley:
Okay.
Amy Babish:
Does that feel resonant for both of you?
Ashley:
Yes.
Amy Babish:
Okay, so we're going to invite those saints in and ask to give a transmission to both of you around first relieving grief and then clearing up over responsibility. Having a split in who you really are. Not being able to be a whole person sense of. I can control someone's destiny. I can control someone's experience and the confusion if it doesn't go the way you want that you punish yourselves. So we're first gonna. We're Gonna clear that up and transmute it into being in right relationship with your autonomy, your sovereignty, and that other people are in their own path.
Ashley:
Yeah.
Amy Babish:
We can't control someone else's fate or destiny, no matter how much we love them. And giving the ability to notice that when we're not in our whole selves, when we're not all of our magic, when we don't hold the. When we don't embody the continuum of our true self, that. That also has an impact on people who love us. They get confused by who we really are and they're disconnected from what happens.
Ashley:
You're smiling. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So she's just. We're. I mean, we're both kind of receiving that. There's not really any confusion around it for her anymore. Yep. And it feels like.
Amy Babish:
That feels clear.
Ashley:
Yeah.
Amy Babish:
What about for you, Ashley?
Ashley:
Like all of a sudden in my head, about like. Like how is this happening? Yeah, that's okay. Yeah, it was like a little checkpoint there. Sorry.
Amy Babish:
That's okay. So even though you and I have done one to one constellations and we've done in person group constellations, you haven't had this kind of constellation with me before. So this is a big surprise for you. And that's okay. That's okay. Yeah. How is this happening?
Ashley:
So.
Amy Babish:
We'Re working with your systemic field, which is includes your blood and soul ancestors. And it's so vast and the resources have always been there. We just have to simply open to receive. So these are our Lady Fatima and Mary Magdalene are both resources for both of you.
Ashley:
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can feel that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Thank you.
Amy Babish:
Yeah. And we're going to ask now that there's like, there's more integration happening because you were in the deep feels last night and right when we tuned in like the. The enormity of her heartbreak and grief, like that heaviness. And you are such a vast soul that sometimes that feeling comes up around friendship for you, around truly belonging, around really letting yourself be a whole person in this life. Like really living fully.
Ashley:
Yeah.
Amy Babish:
We're going to ask Mary Magdalene and our lady of Fatima to support both of you in dissolving those layers. And then this may or may not be resonant, but we're going to ask them to bring in turquoise because turquoise works through grief, the ghost of grief. And then Mary Magdalene always works with rose. So the essence and the vibration of Rose, the soothing, the vibration of oneness, of love. And then it feels like we're going to invite in a plant too and so you and your past life self will decide. It feels like it actually is hyacinth. I'm getting either hyacinth or geranium.
Ashley:
Okay.
Amy Babish:
Do either one of those resonates?
Ashley:
No, I don't know much about either one of them.
Amy Babish:
So you'll feel it. So I'm going to go through the ones I'm getting. So the other one, this one is a common flavor and it's a very strong flavor for some people. But licorice or anise?
Ashley:
I love licorice. Yeah.
Amy Babish:
Okay, we're going to go, we're going to go with licorice, also known as anise. We're going to invite in the, the herb that is anise, with all the healing that's going on to recalibrate.
Ashley:
What.
Amy Babish:
Is in right relationship for both of you with yourselves, with your past self, with the afterlife, with what she's done, really being able to understand the impact of what seemed like a really good fun intention that became quite serious was robbing banks. And for you, the price that you're paying around not, not being your whole self and allowing yourself to be your whole self in your most close relationships and in the friendships you long for and in your work in the world. And we're inviting licorice, just like we did with the saints, to come into the physical body, the emotional body, the energetic body and the spiritual body and into the consciousness of your hearts to grow the capacity of your conscious and unconscious hearts around equally giving and receiving with people who are whole and relationships that are reciprocal. You have that with your husband and the business, the yin and the yang balance and inviting that in, in other places within your own heart and in other relationships that are here and those that are on their way. And what happens for you now.
Ashley:
The, the, the pain that I was experiencing or the almost pain that I was experiencing in my heart is softened and, and I'm feeling a more easeful breath and kind of more relaxed in my body. Yeah, I could see. Yeah, I could see it.
Amy Babish:
So do you feel like you're ready? Anything else you want to say to your past life self or anything she wants to say to you?
Ashley:
No, I don't think so. I don't think so. That's fine. I think it'll, it'll cut. That'll come next. Go ahead. Okay.
Amy Babish:
Okay. So you're going to say to her, you know, in your own Ashley way, I see that you're sorted and I'm ready to take the soul fractal back from you and allow it to come to. To my body.
Ashley:
Yeah. Well, take my soul fractal back, please. And I'm glad you're sorted. They're okay. Okay. Okay.
Amy Babish:
And so now we can invite her, her husband or her partner into this experience and they can reunite.
Ashley:
Yeah.
Amy Babish:
What happens when you witness that?
Ashley:
Just really sweet. Yeah, you can say. I think so. I've shared with you before that. That my husband and I have been together in multiple lifetimes, you know.
Amy Babish:
Yes.
Ashley:
And. Yeah, I think. I think that's another. Yeah. Another version. It's really sweet to see you.
Amy Babish:
You can invite your husband in and you can say to him, we're repeating the partnership legally this time. But you're, you know, you're my ride or die. You're my person forever. You've always been my person. And I'm committed to being all of my magic with you now.
Ashley:
I'm committed to being all of my magic with you now.
Amy Babish:
And I see that I'm a whole person. And I release. I've been dissolving my. My confusion around control.
Ashley:
Yeah. I'm dissolving my confusion around control.
Amy Babish:
Anything else you want to say to.
Ashley:
No. I'll remember this for a really long time. This is really sweet.
Amy Babish:
Yeah, I'm sure he will, too. He's going to receive it in the energy.
Ashley:
Yeah. Yeah.
Amy Babish:
So if there's nothing else to say to the. That couple, you and your husband can come into wherever you want. It could be in your home. It could be one of your favorite places together. But we're going to invite your parents in and your lineage. Your lineages. You could take some water. It's a big.
Amy Babish:
That was a big, big layer.
Ashley:
Love.
Amy Babish:
And where. Where are you. Where are you taking. Taking us?
Ashley:
So I brought my. My mom and my biological f. Right. And they're standing with me now, Right. Yep.
Amy Babish:
Yeah. So you're facing them, and behind your mom is your maternal lineage, and behind your dad, your bio dad, is your paternal lineage. And so what happens when you see them now?
Ashley:
Oh. So in our last constellation, you know, that we really worked on my. My biological father's lineage. And his mother's here.
Amy Babish:
Yes.
Ashley:
With a lot to say again, it looks like, but.
Amy Babish:
Yes.
Ashley:
Yeah. There's some more peace there, I think, than there was the last time I saw them.
Amy Babish:
Yeah.
Ashley:
Yeah.
Amy Babish:
And so we're going to say to them, around this layer, anybody in the lineage and the lineages, including your parents, who want to receive any of the resources we just worked with, they can receive them at this time. And anybody who does not want to receive can just kind of step out of the line.
Ashley:
Hmm. Okay. Anyone who wants to receive the resources from Mary Magdalene, Our lady of Fatima, licorice, can receive them now. And if you don't want to, you can step out. That's wild. Yeah. There's so many.
Amy Babish:
And my sense, Ashley, is that it's going to go at different. Like different doses and different continuations for the different ancestors. So some people would be just while we're doing this podcast, other people, it's going to be a week. Some of them it's going to be a month, and some of them it's going to be four years. So we don't have to, like, give the dosage. The systemic field gives the dosage. The dosages. So it's important to name that.
Amy Babish:
There's no thought that this is going to be lickety split for them.
Ashley:
Right. Okay. Yeah, that's important. I feel that. So.
Amy Babish:
Your mom is going to continue to receive this for 72 hours, and your dad's going to get it for 108 hours. So there. It's not like. Also, it's not like. It's like they might get to 84% by the end of this conversation, but then the other part has to kind of be dosed out gently.
Ashley:
Yeah. Okay, that makes sense.
Amy Babish:
So would you like to speak with your mom or your dad first?
Ashley:
My mom.
Amy Babish:
And did your mom, was she the one that moved you across state?
Ashley:
Yeah. Yeah.
Amy Babish:
So you can have your younger self there and she can be receiving, too. And you can say in your own way, in your own words, I always thought it was because of what happened when we moved. And I've held the pain of my younger self for all these years and my shape shifting and hid by magic. And I kept West Virginia, the other side of the state, on the hook for this. I did in accents for a long time.
Ashley:
Yeah. Yeah.
Amy Babish:
And whatever else you. You feel like you might have kept your mom on the hook around this, you could share it with her. Like, I can see the roots are so much deeper now, Mom. Yes, that was painful, but it wasn't all of it.
Ashley:
Yeah, yeah, yeah. This wasn't just your actions. This was an entanglement that was from before.
Amy Babish:
And you can say to her, I take you off the hook for this.
Ashley:
Yeah. I take you off the hook for this.
Amy Babish:
Yeah. What happens? Yeah. I could feel that coming. What happens in your heart when you say that, Ashley?
Ashley:
Yeah. So I think I. I knew I held anger around this, you know, and grief around this toward my mom, but I Appreciate being able to make the connection and actually release it so I can do that. That feels good.
Amy Babish:
And, you know, we don't have to go into the specifics of something that's very personal, but you can say to.
Ashley:
Her.
Amy Babish:
I hid my magic for many reasons to stay safe in your home in that. And, yeah, I take all of my magic back.
Ashley:
Yeah, I take all my magic back.
Amy Babish:
All the facets of my softness and seriousness, and I'm allowed to be the main character now of my own life.
Ashley:
Yeah, that's a. Oh, that's sweet. That's what she wanted for me. That's what she wants for me.
Amy Babish:
Yeah.
Ashley:
She always wanted me to be the main character.
Amy Babish:
She didn't know.
Ashley:
She didn't know.
Amy Babish:
And you can say to her, I became the supporting actress because of what happened between you and me and your husband.
Ashley:
Yeah. That's also true.
Amy Babish:
And I leave that with you. That's not mine to fix, to manage anymore, or to control.
Ashley:
Yeah, it's not mine to manage anymore or control. She knows that. Yeah, yeah.
Amy Babish:
This is like our checks and balances. She knows that. But we just double check on this one.
Ashley:
Yeah, yeah. That's good. No, that. I mean, it's good for me to know that she knows that. That I didn't realize that she knew that. Yeah.
Amy Babish:
I think she got that from our constellation.
Ashley:
Yeah. Yeah. It's good. Good reassurance. Yeah. Yeah.
Amy Babish:
And for those listening. We're in. We're in August.
Ashley:
Yeah. Yeah.
Amy Babish:
Is there anything else you want to say to your mom?
Ashley:
No. No, I think that's complete. Yeah. That feels good.
Amy Babish:
You can ask your mom and your maternal lineage for the blessing for you to be in all of your magic.
Ashley:
Yeah. Can you bless me to be in all of my magic? Mm. Yeah. That's just a side note. That would be something really difficult to ask in real life.
Amy Babish:
That's right. That's why we do it here.
Ashley:
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It feels good. It was not hard to ask here.
Amy Babish:
This is in the wholeness.
Ashley:
Yes.
Amy Babish:
And I think it's important because I have many people that. Not that this is your experience, but many people who have been through a lot of religious abuse or very conservative upbringing that was very confusing religiously. And we can't change people. We can't control people in the energy or in real life. And people's souls can come through more clearly in systemic work, and you can receive the benefits in a way that might never be possible and in the real. Real.
Ashley:
Yeah. Yeah.
Amy Babish:
And that love comes through and just let that come through. You can. You can kind of turn around and face. Face the future and let that come through everyone's back of their hearts. Forward all the way through the back of your heart kind of beaming out that blessing. That's a blessing for you to be all of you on your own colors.
Ashley:
That's so crazy. Yeah. I love it.
Amy Babish:
It's the love, the multicolored love. Yeah.
Ashley:
Yeah.
Amy Babish:
And so that's what you. That's what, that's what supports you, Ashley. You don't have to do it alone. You don't have to hold back. You don't have to split off. You don't have to be on all the time. This is another resource.
Ashley:
Thank you.
Amy Babish:
And then we're going to go to your dad, your paternal lineage.
Ashley:
Okay.
Amy Babish:
And can you think, can you feel into how you've kept him on the hook since that move? Even though we've done some significant work, it might be a different like, nuance around this with your magic.
Ashley:
Oh. Because I didn't really see him and didn't. He didn't know where I was when I moved anymore, so. Because that move was a far one away from him.
Amy Babish:
You were estranged.
Ashley:
Yeah, I was. I've actually been connecting with the. With the term orphan a little bit lately because my. My mom just backing track for just one second. My mom was an orphan. I think she. And this is not the layer for right now, but I could. I'm connecting with them.
Amy Babish:
There's an entanglement around being an orphan with that.
Ashley:
Yeah. So I think that's maybe what this is like with him and what I have him on the hook around. This is I'm alone, you know, and I have to handle it myself and I can only rely on myself, you know? Yeah. So. But that's. I. I see that. I see that differently now.
Ashley:
Yeah.
Amy Babish:
So you can say to him, I kept you on the hook for having to navigate a really complex move.
Ashley:
And.
Amy Babish:
Growing up without you. I kept you on the hook. I punished you for that and I punished myself for that.
Ashley:
Yeah. I punished you for that and myself for them.
Amy Babish:
And I. I kept myself on all the time looking for the ways you'd come back. And I brought that hyper vigilance into my. Into my self employment with my husband.
Ashley:
My adult employment. Yeah. And my life here. Yeah.
Amy Babish:
And if we feel like we need to invite in more resource for you and for him to dissolve that another layer of dissolving. We've dissolved a lot of it before today, but if you'd like to. It actually feels like Licorice wants to help more with this.
Ashley:
That.
Amy Babish:
What does licorice wants to help more with this?
Ashley:
Yeah, it feels. It feels plants. I felt. I felt plants in my consolation with him before. So. Yeah, I. Yeah. Okay.
Amy Babish:
Like the bitter sweetness of licorice then. Now that you can see him more wholly and you can see yourself more wholly, we can dissolve the hyper vigilance, the being on all the time, looking for something that's not there.
Ashley:
Can I ask about. This is just something that's come through recently for me, just over the last couple days, so I feel like it's part of the field is marigold. Do you know about marigold?
Amy Babish:
Yes. So marigold's. So dandelions. That's the other name for marigold. Oh, no, no, no. Marigolds or marigolds. Sorry. Dandelions are dandelions.
Amy Babish:
Excuse me? For the botanist listening.
Ashley:
No, that's okay.
Amy Babish:
So marigolds are orange. Oftentimes they can be other colors, but marigolds are great for communication.
Ashley:
Yeah.
Amy Babish:
And they're used in many different wisdom traditions for blessings and for honoring the ancestors.
Ashley:
I've just noticed them a lot over the last couple days.
Amy Babish:
So you could ask for marigold necklace, a marigold boutonniere, a marigold essence, or just the frequency of marigold. Whatever feels right. And you both might need something different.
Ashley:
Yeah. Yeah. That feels good. Yeah.
Amy Babish:
And so when you're ready, you can say if it feels true, either I take you off the hook or I take you off the hook and I forgive you.
Ashley:
Yeah. I take you off the hook and I forgive you. Yeah.
Amy Babish:
What happens when you share that with your dad?
Ashley:
He's touched. He's so much more peaceful this time than the last time. Yes. Which is wonderful. Just like just one.
Amy Babish:
One constellation. More like. Like. That's amazing.
Ashley:
Yeah, it is. It is pretty amazing.
Amy Babish:
So when your dad is ready and your paternal lineage is ready, those who want to give, those who want to receive the resources, if they need more resources, because this one feels a little bit more sticky, if they need more before they give a blessing, they can do that and they can give you a blessing at a later date. But those who are ready to give the blessing can give a blessing for you and your magic, your wholeness, your being able to turn work on and off and to be your whole self on your own terms with your magic.
Ashley:
Yeah. Whenever you decide to receive that blessing, this lineage feels way more open to giving me blessings for magic. I think that's where the magic lives, actually.
Amy Babish:
Yeah.
Ashley:
It's in both Actually, it's in both, but they're a little less.
Amy Babish:
They're a little more in contact with it.
Ashley:
Yeah. They're a little more in contact with it. Yeah. Thank you.
Amy Babish:
You can bring in your husband if you'd like. You could bring in your kids if you'd like. You can bring in, like, the essence of your business, the spirit of your business that you have with your husband and your other business if you'd like. And you can have them in the. In the forward movement position or the future. And you can tell them, this is me. I'm Ashley. I'm magic.
Ashley:
And I'm magic.
Amy Babish:
And sometimes I'm soft, and sometimes I'm silly, and sometimes I'm serious, and sometimes I'm all in love together.
Ashley:
Yeah. Yeah.
Amy Babish:
I'm going to get the. I'm going to allow the colors of love and blessings to flow through me into all of these things. My relationships with each of you and all of you with the clients that will serve, with the houses that will sell, with the lands that will be stewarded, and into the home we share together. Is there anything else you want to share or say?
Ashley:
I'm so grateful for this process. Thank you, Amy.
Amy Babish:
Thank you. So we'll take a second. You can get something to drink, kind of wiggle your fingers and toes. And then, as we would do in our in person work, it's important that we clear this because it was so potent for you. So for those of you who. I don't think I've ever done this on the podcast before, but Ashley has a very sensitive field, as do I, and it's important for those of you who are energy sensitive or empaths or highly sensitive people that this is something you should do anytime you do systemic work, ancestral work, any kind of energy work, really. So we're gonna say our names. And you can mute yourself because that way you can keep your name private.
Amy Babish:
But I'll do my full name. So you tap on. It's a spot between your. Like, where your bra strap would be under your shoulders if you're a woman. If you're a man, it's like under your shoulder blades, but not in your armpit. And it'll feel like a little divot in there. It's a grief spot. Um, and it's also like a place to really let things release.
Amy Babish:
So you say your name. So you say, my name is Amy Christine Babish. I am Amy Christine Babish. And you tap, tap, tap. And then you swipe your hands down from top to bottom. And I say only. So we do that three times. I am Amy Christine Babish.
Amy Babish:
I am Amy Christine Babish only. I am Amy Christine Babish. I am Amy Christine Babish only. I am Amy Christine Babish. I am Amy Christine Babish only. And some people like to stomp and stamp and shake it out, but we want to have a way to disconnect from those who we have been in deep process with and we can just be ourselves. So I am Amy and Ashley is Ashley. And it's very good to do this so that you don't feel like you're always gonna be endlessly connected to the deep work we just did.
Amy Babish:
We can be in the forward movement energy now. So, Ashley, how do you feel?
Ashley:
Yes, good, thank you. Yeah, that was, that is really important that I'm very intentional about that.
Amy Babish:
Yes.
Ashley:
Disconnection. So thank you.
Amy Babish:
So what are your questions? What are your reflections? Lot of.
Ashley:
Yeah. Some more water. Just a moment. That was incredible. It was. I knew I. I knew we were in for something substantial and that felt very, very significant. So.
Ashley:
And beautiful and unexpected.
Amy Babish:
We never really, we. We don't really know until we get there.
Ashley:
Yeah, yeah, it's true. I, you know, and I am a person that like, you know, I want to control what I can control. You know, as we've established, that was the thing. A thing. That's a thing that I do. And so I tend to like, prepare and over. Prepare and think and over, you know, and think and. But then, you know, I really, I took a lot of time this morning to like, get in my body and like, make sure that I was, you know, fully resourced and present and, and I felt, I felt as prepared as I could going in, but, but, you know, it was something different than I could have even imagined.
Ashley:
So. And it was quite beautiful. And I recommend this for anybody who is curious. It's. It's beautiful work and transformational beyond your wildest expectations. So.
Amy Babish:
Thank you.
Ashley:
Yeah, thank you.
Amy Babish:
Thank you, thank you, thank you. Would you like to see the cards that I pulled?
Ashley:
I would love to see the cards. Yeah. I'm so curious about that.
Amy Babish:
The first, for first time listeners, I pull three cards before I do a process, um, especially when it's ancestral. I ask what is the base of the entanglement? What is the shared kind of base? And then my second question is, what is the resource for the client? So Ashley. And the systemic field. And then what is the most highest possible forward movement for Ashley? That's my third question. So the first card I pulled was the judgment card.
Ashley:
Oh, wow.
Amy Babish:
And so it's a lot of birds that are flocking to a risen bird that is illuminated. And one of the things that I'd like to think about with, like, really being outside of the box with cards that I took some notes on it, like, when judgment ceases, real life can begin. And I feel like we really got to that with this ancestor. And I. I wasn't sure what would happen. I didn't know what the judgment was going to be about. I know that you struggle with control and being controlling. So I was like, this is.
Amy Babish:
We're right on. We're right on track. So I knew that we were on the right. We were in the right realms when we were in contact with that ancestor. And then this one blew me away.
Ashley:
What's.
Amy Babish:
The resource was justice.
Ashley:
Wow.
Amy Babish:
And your cats. So we didn't get. We. We didn't get to your cat on this episode, but Ashley's cat is one of her resources, so I felt like your cat was showing up as a resource.
Ashley:
Yeah. And he was with me the whole time. I didn't mention him, but, yeah, he was with me. I knew I needed to bring him today. In my mind, there's a black and.
Amy Babish:
White car or a black and white cat with a sword down the middle. And so we have two really big, big cards. They're major arcana right in the beginning. So I was like, this is gonna be a very, very big constellation process. And then the forward movement is another bird. It's a swan, and it's the Mother of Cups or the Queen of Cups. And there are all these lights around it and the cup. And this is really about, like, being in your sovereignty, like being in your ability to receive, like, emotional sovereignty, really allowing things to be like, I am in flow no matter what, what is happening out here.
Amy Babish:
And I don't have to control what's happening out here to be in my fullness. And then the card looks very magical. So she's. She's a swan with some magic. So I was like, okay, I'll take. I'll take it. This feels right. So what.
Amy Babish:
What happens when you see the cards? I. I'll. I'll hold them up for you. I think that this. Let's see.
Ashley:
Yeah. Oh, so the Queen of Cups just. I. I pulled that for myself this morning, so. Oh, my goodness. Yeah. Yeah. Just the inner.
Ashley:
And what I would. I. I take away from that is just the. The inner sovereignty, you know, and the tender and powerful. I mean, it was just it was just kind of right on it at the way that it aligned with, with every, with the, with the intention. So, yeah, yeah. I mean, beautiful. It feels like we're.
Ashley:
We're right on track. That's the one. Right on.
Amy Babish:
We're right on track. So thank you for being brave and willing to come on the podcast, especially after the full circle of you finding me through the podcast and the journey we've been on. And for those of you listening, I hope that this episode was very meaningful. If you have had struggles with being on all the time, with work, with over giving, with not being able to be all of yourself, not being in touch with your magic, things with your family of origin, things with moving as a child or not being connected to one parent as a child, we have so many themes here. Or if you've been an outlaw in some way, if you work with your partner in the world. I mean, there's just so many things that came through here today. So I hope that you received the beautiful resources and the forward movement and, and if you'd like to work with me, I have the Alchemical Gateway Constellation package, which is three two hour sessions with me. And we get to mix and match however you like.
Amy Babish:
And they're to be used within about two months. And that's a great way to get started. If you're wondering, like, where do I begin? This woman, Ashley's been working with her for a while. You can drop in and work with me wherever you are. I will always meet you where you are. So I'm sending you blessings from the Doeg land that I steward. And on a beautiful 70 degree day, we're having some respite in the summer and until we meet again, sending you blessings. That's all for this episode of the Soulful Visionary podcast.
Amy Babish:
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