My Purpose: Making Space for Every One to Belong

“If I cannot see your humanity, then everything I'm fighting for is lost.”

Whether you’re tuning in for the first time or you’ve been following along with Leanne’s journey, welcome in!

If you haven’t heard Leanne’s  first constellation session or second constellation session, I encourage you to listen to those first. We’re sharing her 3-part constellation work series on the podcast so you can follow along in the journey.

As soon as you press play, I know you’ll hear the difference in Leanne from our first session to where we are now.

Her willingness to lean in and try again is quite profound and moving, especially given the enormity of what she’s been journeying with. And I know she’s not alone.

So many of us feel like our burdens are too great, too unique, too… unfixable. That we’re stuck with this lot in life and that’s that.

But if you take one thing from Leanne’s journey, I hope you’ll let it be this—there’s always a way.

You’ll especially want to tune into this client session if you, too:

» have been taking care of everyone else before yourself

» feel your divine feminine has been locked away

» are ready to go back to church

» feel that stories have been co-opted

» find there’s always something missing

Topics covered in this podcast episode:

• How Leanne is doing and what she’s experiencing so far

• What happens in a Taoist stone medicine soul retrieval

• If you need to be good at tracking or noticing changes for this work to work

• What gave Leanne the courage to ask for help one more time

• How music has been a healing resource for Leanne

• Insights on the divine feminine, religion, misogyny, and the animal kingdom

• The importance of Mary Magdalene

• Who it actually hurts when you silence yourself

• How we reach ultimate wholeness and unity

• How family-based constellations are different from past life constellations

• What can be done after the session to integrate further
  

You're a whole person who comes from your own complexity.

It’s my hope that by hearing this candid conversation that you find medicine in the words spoken and the energy exchanged. 

If you’re feeling the pull to experience something you have no words for, please reach out. If it's 3 sessions, a year together, or a weekend intensive—I'm here for all of it.

I’m so grateful to Leanne for—and you—joining us for this 3-part journey! I send you the infinite possibilities that are available when you step into your wholeness.

To book your own 3-session constellation process, explore the Alchemical Constellation Gateway here.

If you’re unsure where to begin, sign up for a free Consultation Call. And if this episode resonates, please leave a review on your favorite platform and share this episode with those who you think might benefit. 

Until we meet again, sending you blessings from the Doeg land that I steward, and water to quench whatever you've been thirsty for.

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Related Episodes:

Mercy That is Not Deserved and Grace That Isn’t Earned With Sandy Hook (Leanne session 1)

I’m Leaning in and the Magic is Happening (Leanne session 2)

Adoption Journey From Anger to Joy w/ Alchemical Constellation Work

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The unedited podcast transcript for this episode of The Soulful Visionary Podcast follows

Amy Babish: Have you ever felt like there's something more just waiting to be unlocked in your life? Like no matter how much you've accomplished, a deeper potential is calling. Welcome to the Soulful Visionary Podcast, where I guide you to align with your authentic self and create a life of purpose, love, and lasting impact. A life where you can truly soar beyond what your mind can comprehend. I'm your host, Amy Babish, a licensed psychotherapist and an expert in somatic coaching, feng shui, and wisdom traditions. With over 20 years of experience guiding thousands of clients through soul level transformation. Each week we'll dive into potent practices, live client sessions, and insightful conversations to help you dissolve intergenerational patterns and transcend your upper limits so that you can live the big life you are meant to live. Tune in and let's unlock your inner wisdom together. Welcome in to the Soulful Visionary podcast. Amy Babish: I'm your host, Amy Babish, and I am here with Leanne for her third podcast episode. In her series of three plus sessions with me, we did a Taoist stone retrieval off camera in between the three episodes. And we're here for episode episode three. And just so people have listeners have a sense of the timing of this, we started, we started this process kind of getting to know each other in November of 2024, and then we had like, started to name the conversation probably in mid June, and we are taping this third episode in July 23rd of 2025. So it's been close to nine months and we're gonna see what's here today and what Leanne is seeking and how I can be of service and support for her and her field and her intention and her forward movement. So welcome in Leanne. Leanne: Hello, everyone. Different tone, different, I think energetic space. So I'm really happy to be here. So grounded presence. Amy Babish: And. And I was saying to Leanne because we're in this training together, that since I would say since the Taoist soul retrieval, I have just witnessed like your emergence. Like you're. You were beautiful before, but your. Your radiance is coming out and it's in a way that it is. It is really like in a cohesive wholeness, sparkle from the inside out kind of way. And she was. She was saying that a client mentioned to this to her and she started to notice herself. Amy Babish: So I think that's a good place to kind of just begin. Begin. Begin our conversation. Leanne: Yeah. Amy Babish: Anything you want to name before we name your intention? Leanne: Yeah. Just wanted to say, in addition to what, like, just to highlight what you Said I also do feel energetically also and spiritually grounded. And it's more of like a oneness to. Like you said, particularly, this is the soul retrieval. Like, it's felt very like it's. It's like the parts of me feels like it's like it's. It's almost like a. Somehow I've been molded back together. Leanne: I mean, they're so fractured. What's the name of the Japanese thing? So the. The liquid. So there are parts of it that you can still see the crack. The crack is still there because that's the experience to remember. But it feels like there's like a gluing together that is reemerging, but in a. In a. In a different way. Leanne: Does that make sense? Amy Babish: Yeah. Yeah. So it's like we don't. When we do this work, we don't. Like, there's not like a magic eraser. That's like the mark was never there. That experience was never there. Like, there's no gaslighting of ourselves. Amy Babish: And we can. We can see that the. The cracks have been know, alchemized. They might have gold in them for some people. For some people, there might be crystals. For some people, there may be flowers. And we can be in relationship with. With it without becoming the crack or becoming the lived experience that create. Amy Babish: Created the crack. Leanne: Yes. Amy Babish: So when. When we are in this kind of portal, we were, you know, you don't have to be Leanne and his immense, Immense attracting. Noticing what happens. And I am immense at noticing what happens. And for those of you who are listening and asking, do I need to be really good at tracking? I would say that's not a. That's not a qualifier. And some people are naturally like that, and some of us acquire that process when we come back to ourselves. I think what's most important is, you know, something that Leanne mentioned around feeling very fractured before, and now she's. Amy Babish: She showed me with her hands, and you couldn't see it on the podcast listening, but she was. She was kind of showing with her hands like she was more parts of her heart coming back in. And with the Taoist stone retrieval, you are allowing yourself to become the lighthouse, to call yourself back to yourself. And it's not conscious, and you also don't have to do anything. Leanne: So. Amy Babish: So the power of working with ancient stones who are wisdom keepers, and with Leanne's intention, that allowed more of herself to come back. And that's woven in the context of the deeper constellation work we did beforehand and the deeper constellation work she's been tending to over the past year and the years since Sandy Hook, and I would say since being placed in the womb by her ancestors. So it's arc upon arc upon arc, and they're all. They're all finding their rightful place of belonging within Leanne and within her systemic field. So it's not that all those pieces have to come into Leanne herself. Is that more. There's more space for Leanne to come to Leanne, because the things that are not Leanne's are going back to the rightful place. Leanne: Check, check, check. Yeah. Yes. Check, check, check. And also, you know, and the parts that, in fact, from the first time we spoke at the end, when I, like when I let out everything and you said, well, that was a healing movement, there was something else you said which was, as we put it, you said in many ways, when you. When life. The way you said it, like, kind of like your. Your soul was like, it. Leanne: It's, like, landed it. It took. There was something that was taken away, and I didn't necessarily know it. I'm just kind of going with the flow. But I. The timing to be able to kind of be aware of all of these levels and layers of existence of being that I'm in is. Was not clear to me because this. I was loaded with every other thing. Leanne: So, like, when I was ready, I think the last time we spoke is like, when. When the teacher. You said something about when the teacher. And that became very profound all week as you said it. When the teacher is ready, the students will come. So it was kind of like this is. This was part of the journey in getting ready. And I can really feel it at the precipice of, like, okay, now all those experiences were, like, little. Leanne: Like they would make sense. Now when you step into this, that. That tunnel, when you step into this tunnel of movement. Amy Babish: And. And for. For those of you who are listening, who tuned into the prior two episodes or who are just joining. Joining us now, if this is where you're finding this podcast in general, you can know in your heart of hearts that you. You really want to change something, and you might have tried to change it in many different ways and asked for help in many different ways and prayed about it and danced on it or, you know, left it to the side and said, you know, help me with this. And I think your willingness, Leanne, to really try again is. Is quite profound and moving for me, especially given the enormity of what you have been journeying with. And I think many people I was Talking to one of my mentors last week, and she was like, you know, I think I'm a lot like your clients, Amy. Amy Babish: And I believe that. I'm like, my problems are more complicated and worse than everyone else, and I'm a unique snowflake. And you don't use that word, Leanne, but I feel like you have had. You've been reflected back to by the people you asked for help. Like, this is too much. This is too complicated. We can only do with, you know, this piece. And in some ways, those people are having integrity with their skill set and their capacity and being on the receiving side of that. Amy Babish: It's like, well, you know, fuck, who am I supposed to ask for help? If I've asked the people who are supposed to be the experts of the experts, and they're not helping me, I must be super. A super unique snowflake. And I think my. My intuition is that many people who are finding this podcast, and especially finding these three episodes might be. It might be touching the parts of them that feel like, I have asked for help, I have done the practices, I have surrendered this, and I don't know what else to do. And my hope is that through your lived experience, through your journey, they can see that. There's always a way. There's always a way. Leanne: Yes. And. And also the way. Another thing is if anybody's listening to this and they're. They're, you know, like, oh, my gosh, how can I. Like, I. I've tried. Like, I've had this experience. Leanne: Where do I even begin? I want to tell you that for me, what happened is I had to, you know, because we're so used to. Especially when you're asking for this, you have this intense thing, and you. You're carrying this thing, and you're like, I don't know. Nobody can. You've tried several times. Nobody can deal with it. So you learn to stand up, kind of like, okay, I'm just gonna hold this thing and keep going. Because most of the people with this experience have the capacity almost to. Leanne: To keep going and. But that's the courage to. To try again. Some people is like, okay, you know what? Nobody can help me with this. I'm just gonna tuck it somewhere and keep on moving. And with, like, one broken. Like, a broken leg. You live the rest of your life with a broken leg that can just be sued with, like, a bomb or something. Leanne: But you, You, You. You kind of felt frustrated and hopeless, basically. So for me, it was kind of like I was there, I was Almost there until, you know, when you had kids, like, you start to worry about them. So for me, that's kind of what pushed me back into, okay, if. If humans are not gonna help me. Like, now it's like, people always say this, like a divine force. Like, and I do believe that on. On some level, you know how most people would say, like, there's a higher power, like, we might not be connected to it, but we are so connected to it, but we're so distracted with everything around us that we don't. Leanne: Like, we don't. We don't even seek those resources, but they're always there. Ancestral resources, nature, the animals, like, literally the air we breathe, the wind is resource in us. Right? But so for me, I had to, like, instead of, like, because of my own. My own children, I was like, okay, like, I have to figure out a way to. To. To maybe adjust myself so that I can be the best I could be for them. Like, with the brokenness. Leanne: That's what I was thinking. Like, I'm not gonna be. I was thinking I'm not gonna be whole. But if I can get a little, like, solution or a method to be able to kind of keep on moving, I. It would be helpful. And. And I walked into this, you know, calling. I just called on to the. Leanne: Those spiritual guides, my ancestors, and I was like, you gotta help me for the. For the future, even. Not for me. Like, for future. What is it? So then I. That's when I dove in. And even with. That was very hard because it's like when. Leanne: When. When those resources came in, because they're not typical, right? You, You. You almost like, kind of like, oh, that was just a coincidence, right? But then it's like. But at every time. This cannot be coincidence because it's happening every time. The birds, like, they show up exactly when you need, and then you check and it's like, you can't be you. The angel numbers, like, the, the symbolisms, the synchronicities, and how magical like, it is that, like, there's something resourcing us bigger than. Than ourselves. Leanne: Music. Music is the one that still to this day, like, shocks me. How magical. My Spotify. I. I really believe my Spotify playlist was just this inspirational, like, magical download of like, whatever my heart is seeking in any given moment. If I'm saying, okay, you know what? I need to use my music resource right now. I just need to get on Spotify. Amy Babish: It's your Spotify oracle. Leanne: Yes. Yes. And so it's kind of, like, incredible. It's Incredible to start on this. This journey. Right. The song that led me to it was like the country song. God bless the. Leanne: God bless the. The broken road that led me back to you. And then when I had the. The first deep movement, the song that came up was the Whitney Houston. I didn't know my own strength. So I know all these songs. Right. Like, I'm talking songs in the 80s and stuff. Leanne: Like, they just keep. They just show up. Yes. Like, like to, like to. To. To reinforce and to reassure me that like, like when you see, like, like this is a resource for you, reach out. So it's just so. I wish I could say all the specifics, but every waking moment my eyes are open. Leanne: It's magic. And now I feel deeply held. I feel safe. That. Because safety was what was taken away, right. I feel safe. I feel like my feet landed like, almost like an egg. I. Leanne: We did the alters and I put like, there's an egg I got from South Africa. I think it's malachite is the stone. And I, I put it. It's. It's shaped like an egg and I put it on a pillow because, like, that's kind of where. And it. It's representing my soul. My. Leanne: My. My soul lineage. Like, it's like they just landed me. They put me like, finally I saw the landing place, but it wasn't like a drop because that's a very sensitive. Like that's the deeper enough or inside of my body was more. But the inner. The most inner core of my body is that soul lineage. And it's sitting on my altar on a pillow. Leanne: So like that's. That's where. That's what it feels like. It's like they just brought me back and landed me. They're like, okay, now it's safe for you to continue living, to be like, let's continue on. Amy Babish: Yeah, let's move forward. One of my mentors, my longtime mentors, he was an economist and then he became a healer. He's an older man, Dan. He would always tell me that there's a golden city in my chest. And the golden city, I hid it from myself, from enduring a lot of really complicated things. And I can feel that you have found your golden, golden city, man. Like, you are in contact with it and you know how to share it with the right people and how to like, really let in more support and resource for it too. I feel like that is. Amy Babish: We are. We are arriving. Something that you mentioned in our pre chat, which we can follow this thread or we can go someplace else. Because I want to get to your intention. But what's coming through is you have had a lived experience of taking care of everyone else before yourself. And I think that many, many, many people, especially women, can really consciously know that, especially in midlife, we're much more aware of it. So I think that just needs to be presence in the field. That, that is also being alchemized today. Amy Babish: Yeah, that's your main intention. But let's, let's. I want to, I want to presence that as part of what you have been carrying. That's not yours. And tell me more about what you want to work on today. Leanne: Okay. So I mean, my intention doesn't change. I just want to live in my fullness. You know, as you, as I said that I look forward. I have a candle burning here, but it's dream can do. But as I said this I looked for. That was the candle I was looking for sitting right next to my clock, my table clock that says growth will change. I'm gonna pick it up and light it because that's what I was looking for. Leanne: And it's about time. This is the tracking. Like my brain just tracks everything. It's more organized now, hopefully. So, so I, I was explaining that I think a little bit of it has to go with my family lineage where. But I also, there's also this collective field. But I didn't always know what the capacity, my, my own capacity was. So it felt punishing to experience that exclusion in a world. Leanne: And it has a lot to do with the power dynamics that we've been, we've lived in, talking about massage and all of that. But, but there's also a deep loyalty that we don't even recognize as a deep loyalty to the masculine as well. I just, right up until more recently, like my dad and he still is, you know, heaven to me. And he's deeply, deeply resourceful. Me, I, I feel him every day. But there wasn't enough space for my mom, you know, and there wasn't a lot of grace for my mom. But I think more recently I'm starting to notice that. And that came up a little bit last night as well. Leanne: I'm starting to notice that a lot of the actions that maybe I judge her for and I was upset with her for was was her making way. Those who made way. Right. Like, and I, I, I'm feeling now that I'm, I've been so loyal to her in that way. The making way for survival. The, the, the, the. Did we really. Did we really, even people that. Leanne: That think that we had choices. Was it really a choice to. To leave? Was it really a choice to. To. To. To be this lesser. Like, to be seen as this second? I'm starting to really, through this work, I'm starting to really realize that in this was archetypical presence and, and like owning that fullness, which is my intention, is like, to fully be me. Part of that golden city that was locked up was a divine feminine. Leanne: And when I was asking and questioned, like, with the deepest part, from the deepest part of my soul, I want to live fully because I want to be able to experience life from a complete place. It's a very scary, huge intention that sometimes you can even give up because it feels so big. The resources came and I. It's really hard to explain it, but it came from like, it went magic. That's the only way I could say, like, magically, like, I started noticing how, like, there is a super dependence on the masculine and how they see the world and how they've shaped the world and. And how we see ourselves. It's really orchestrated by their own. It's what they've been, what we've been given. Leanne: That's their, like, truth. And I don't know if I've said it here. I'm also like, very religious. Very, very religious. But in the last 10 years, I have to be honest, but more mainly five years, it's been so hard for me to. Just last week I. I talked to my husband. I was like, I think I'm ready to go to church. Leanne: Because I said, I'm going. I'm ready to go back to church. Because there's this like a different awareness now of who. Who I am and what I carry. What was missing for me. We talked about Mary Magdalene yesterday, right. What started to become clear to me was a conversation we had in class where the mentor, the male actually said it, talked about Mary Magdalene being the first person to go to get to the tomb. And she was asked, did you really see Jesus? And she said, yeah, I saw him. Leanne: And they were like, did you really see. Yeah, I saw him with my heart. And I was like, well, why is it that it's somebody else that is telling us the story, whereas her own, like, she's the one who experienced it. So it. It's always. It's. So since that day, that has really stuck with me in terms of, yeah, where's the female voice? Like, where's the. The woman's voice in all of this, like, saying, and if we are Creating. Leanne: If we're bringing birth in children, like, it seems like a very important voice that's missing. So I started seeking that. And so magically, I'm telling you, the Egyptian goddesses. The first one that showed up was Matt. That was so magical. So I'm reading up about her. Well, the, the African lady showed up. The female ones, Yamaya and Oya, and you know, like, and how the story is shaped and, and how powerful they were, right? They. Leanne: They are. And how like you feel them in your, like in your issue. And then I'm looking at the things that I, I'm connected to and I'm like, could it really be true that, that, like this thing that, that we've been told to. Not to. To. To. To stay away from, it's no good for you? Like, that's evil. That, that's, you know, like, could it really, could it really be real that this thing is like, I, I carry like some kind of like connect soul. Leanne: So I'm talking about soul lineage. I carry this person's soul lineage. Then it's like, for me, it was in my faith. It was like, yeah, where's Mary? And like, this is your child. You watch him, like, you know, he dragged and, and, and persecuted and killed it. And you had to stand that none of the disciples that we have their stories in the Bible. None of them, none of them was there except John. It was women. Leanne: It was very Nicaragua. Who took the towel and wiped the face of Jesus. Stephen had to be forced to take the cross, right? If he was forced to take the cross, they didn't, they didn't. He didn't volunteer. Veronica, like, didn't care about the mob and, and what would happen to her. She took, he took a towel and she says, oh my God, he's not even my kid. We don't even know anything about her after that. We didn't hear anything else about her in the Bible but compassion, right? This does something that's a feminine thing. Leanne: She takes a towel and she wipes his face. That's so like, where's all of that energy when we talk about the Bible, right? So that, that started to come up for me. Like all the stories of the women, like Vatsy, the, the, the. The queen that said, I refuse to be objectified, right? I refuse to come and be your plaything with your friends, with your buddies so that you can. And. And then they made a decree that everybody. That's where the rookie. According to Christianity that women cannot, like men have to rule their homes and Women cannot say no. Leanne: Can you see? Can you see how, like, it's so deeply entrenched, there's so many factors to it. So I'm like. When I started to look at that, and I'm not even going as deep as I usually would go about things. Usually I'm like, You know how I'm like, very detailed. I go to my new detail, right? But I'm not even with that. I'm not even have the detail because it's almost like we give you that information. Like, you just. Now that you. Leanne: Your eyes are open, there's some awareness to you now. We're gonna even, like, we're gonna drop. We're gonna drop the stories like. Like the connections for you, so you can start weaving it. And that is your niche. You. You know, I was having a really hard time with that niche thing, and I was like, you guys have to leave me alone because I have to figure this thing out on my own. And I'm so glad that I did that, because now I would have said something that was also in alignment with what the patriarchy is, you know, like. Leanne: Like the generation of the generating of wealth. Abundance has to be about money. No, it's not just about money. It's not about, like, reaching, reaching, reaching all the time. Part of it is also kind of feeling full and happy and complete. So with all of that, the divine feminine is now that gate. That's the. I guess that's the golden city. Leanne: That is, like, out of survival. I've been living locked up in this, like, because there were even the. The craftiness of women. And their magic was. Was. Was condemned as witchcraft, right? And they were burned at the stakes. But the power of these. The. Leanne: The soul of the woman that is. That will not be denied. It's like some of them, because they're like, I'm not gonna allow myself to be killed. I'd rather jump to my bed now, send the message through the birds. I've been doing constellations with birds since this awakening. Literally. Literally. So it's kind of like this. Leanne: So I got mad, understood her. Like, she's the balance. And it's like. And it doesn't. And. And I'm finding out that it was through the laws of my. The Ten Commandments. Makes sense. Leanne: And then there was yesterday. This. This is the part that I was telling you. You. You kind of. You missed. I just said something that had to do with also the visibility and the voice and. And all of a sudden, somebody representing whatever just brings out isis. Leanne: And before then I was looking at Isis. I was going to sound like I feel connected to her, but I'm not sure or whatever. I went to buy the. The statue to put, like, because we've been doing this altar work. And I was like, nah, I'm not sure. I think I'm more mad because of whatever. And then, boom. Yesterday, Isis was in the middle of, like, as. Leanne: As a resource to what I was looking for. And then Mary Magdalene happened to be. And other people. You're going to see other people had their. Like, there was Lady Liberty, the. The. Just like that. And. Leanne: And it ended up being, like, just women who stayed. And that's been my experience, even from where we were that first time. I told you. I said everybody left. One of the women stayed. They put a burden. We didn't know it was it a bird and a baby, and everybody left. And we had to stay and figure out how to safely transmute this or put it in a place where it doesn't leave anything, any residue for anyone. Leanne: So I think there's an awakening of something that has to do with that closed Golden Gate with all of us coming. Right? But it's kind of like because of the world we live in, we. It's been. We. We've had to kind of lock it up for safety. We don't even. Some of us, we came locked up. We came with it locked up as a protective. Leanne: As a protective thing, right? It's like, okay, we don't want you to be. So we're gonna, like. We're gonna put a DNA. Like, we're gonna put a new DNA around you for protective. With epigenetics so that you don't have to, like, you can. You can sense this before. Before. Before you could be at risk. Leanne: Because we don't want that to happen to you. And so we're carrying that fear and that trauma. Ancient, ancient trauma like, that. We. We had generations that, like, I would never be able to trace it back if I try, you know? But it's coming back. The bones remember? And the bone is saying, like, no, no, no, your part. Yeah, you. You have. Leanne: This is there. So, you know, like, if you want to wake up now, we're gonna awaken you. We're awakening that part. And that's how we were all sent into this space, where even with the misogyny, it's not like there's a seeking, because the fight now feels more like if we let. If we let women kind of rise in this way, oh, my gosh, there's gonna be a Huge Douglas for race too. There's gonna be a huge revolt and like they're gonna chip. But the balance has been kept way too, too one sided that like it's. It doesn't. Leanne: It's. It's actually destructive. And so there's an awakening and the opening of those gates and the experiences that lead to the opening of those gates for those that kind of like had the capacity to stay and stay long enough and, and. And get all of us. Whether you had a traumatic experience or not, I think that we all have like a golden. The piece of magic inside of us that for some protective reason maybe it was too early when it was expressed and the people didn't understand it so it was shut down. You should like. It's profound. Leanne: What. And this is something that. The good thing about constellations work, I have to say is I hope I'm not rambling. Am I? Okay, you're speaking a word. Please stop me if you. It's like part of your. Amy Babish: Some people, Leanne. Some people. Leanne: Yeah. Amy Babish: Through this way. Not everybody, but yeah, this is. This is part of your way and. Leanne: I appreciate you for that because again, this is parts of why the golden city gets locked up. Because the lack of understanding, which is what I was actually going to say like somebody who has no idea what I was presence in. In that like this is if this was a random thing that happened like over a month ago. Right. And I felt it, I complained about it in my spirit, was like so upset about it because I was like, like come back. Like we need, you know, like we need the fullness. This is my intention always fullness. I want to live in fullness. Leanne: But it felt like a part of me was wanting to leave and nobody was kind of like, but this is my experience of the world. Like to be that weaving and seeing the detail that everybody's like, oh my gosh, like let it go already. Like we don't have to. Why. Why are you still stuck on this thing? And it's not like you're stuck on. It's not even a bad thing. Like a bitterness and an anger. It's craz. Leanne: Hardly ever anger. It's just kind of like can we look at this thing? Can we. Can we just hold a little more space and time for this thing like to. To pass? Like we, we do have the capacity. Can we not be so about like moving on to the next and. And to the next and the next. It's like we. It becomes overwhelming when you lose yourself because you're moving. Leanne: So that's Kind of me, I've been trying to move with the. The speed or else I'm gonna be, you know, like, opportunities are gonna pass by. I'm not. I'm not gonna be able to live in an abundant life. You know, I'm. I'm doing the air codes for anybody who needs to hear that. The abundant life that is all around misogyny and how that has been crafted of what abundance is that? So we're trapped in this, like. Like this incomplete, like, feeling like the wholesomeness is not there because we're, like, in this imagining this world that never feels like we're trying to film something, but it never feels full. Leanne: And if some people don't stop and say, like, wait, wait a minute. We've been doing this for years and years and years and years and centuries, and it's still not answering. It's not hitting the mark. And we keep. What is it? Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and over again and expecting a different result. Like, can we take a look at. Like, maybe this formula is not working? Can we look at a different formula? And can we all consciously. What is it? United Nations? Can we all, like, sit down, have a. Leanne: Have a. Have a conversation about how we really want to unite? The whole world wants to unite. Let's talk honestly about what's happening so that we can actually. We really mean it. We can start looking at solutions, not recycling the problem and the recycling the problem. Who's in charge of everything. So that's another part layer to the divine feminine. It's kind of like, so the goddesses are arising, and it's like, enough, enough. Leanne: Like, let's rewrite this thing. Let's read. I told you 2020 saved my life. I had to stop. I was at the peak when I told you, like, I was at the peak. Money was never a problem. Like, I was. I was good about money. Leanne: I bought Gucci bags and. Because I'm really all about badges now. I'm not even. I can't remember the last time I wore a pair of shoes because I. I work from home and I'm walking around with. Actually. But I have these. But that used to be all about, like, I used to, like, love all those things. Leanne: And I still do. I still love my purses and my shoes. But. But there's a different focus now because it's kind of like when I. When 2020 happened and I. And. And. And it's kind of like, okay, without those things, without going out, without the destructions of the world and and how we've kind of like that completely recalibrated our minds and our souls to fit that search, that deeper meaning. Leanne: I feel empty. I felt empty. I felt like life could have been really amazing in that moment. But I told you, after two weeks I was like, oh, I thought this was just a nice vacation. And it went months. And I'm like, okay, what's going on? And that's when I started to feel the emptiness. That's when I, and I, and I say this, I know there's a lot of loss in 2020, but the pandemic saved my life. Yeah. Leanne: Because I would have just gone on. I'm telling you, I was making so much. The abundance was like out of this world. But that was all I was doing. I wasn't living and pursuing a dream that. What is it like, what, what did it give me? At the end of the day when I said that, I was like, I still feel empty. Amy Babish: I think this, this is a, this is a. I feel like this is actually the entanglement. Leanne: Yes. Amy Babish: Are you open to hearing a couple threads? Leanne: So I told you interrupt me for days. Amy Babish: I'm interrupting now. So my sense, I want to, I want to, I want to close some threads and then come into the constellation. We are in the constellation, but going deeper. So yeah, I'm not a biblical scholar by any means, but I see so many religious academics of all faiths. And with Mary Magdalene, you know, Jesus's story was written after his life. And so it's like just like we give, we give some writers, this is the thread and then people take and run with it with their own lineages. So I think it's important, no matter if you are a faithful person or not, that the truth of someone who walked on this earth, if it's been co opted with good intentions, it's never going to be the whole story. And so if it's Mary Magdalene, if it's your grandmother, if it's your estranged cousin, the stories that we're fed are oftentimes even with good intentions, things are being omitted. Amy Babish: And so with Mary Magdalene's story, she is the only woman in the Bible, in the gospels that is is mentioned as just Mary Magdalene. She's not the sister of somebody, she's not the wife of somebody, she is just, she can stand alone. And I think that that is one of the like the archetypes of something that's oftentimes lost. Like you can stand alone and be all in your wholeness. She is also at the tomb. She's the first one to see Jesus and she's the last one to leave. And I think that speaks to too. When we're in our wholeness, we know our divine timing doesn't mean that we're always the last one cleaning up after the party. Amy Babish: We're not. I'm not saying that at all. Don't get it. Don't get it. Messed up listeners. Leanne: Yeah. Amy Babish: And Leanne's field. So when we know our divine timing and we are, we are standing in our sovereignty. I think sometimes what's also, what's also co op co opted and confused in a lot of writings about the divine feminine is that the divine feminine only includes the feminine. And so it's the same. I think that there's also, you know, there's so much hurt, there's so much over identify identifying with like the victim lineage and being perpetrated against. I don't ever want to say on this podcast or in anything that I share that men are at the root of this. Like both men and women in all kinds of ways have been perpetrated against and also created perpetration. And so I think with the divine feminine says is they are in their wholeness with we can call it from Taoism, the yin and the yang, the masculine, the feminine. Amy Babish: So they're in the wholeness. And just like a yin and yang has white and black and black and white, it's not ever stagnant, it's always moving. And so when we are in our fluidity, not I'm not getting into this is not a conversation about gender but the qualities of giving, receiving. When we're in our wholeness with giving and receiving and our yes and our no and knowing. I need to, I need to prioritize myself and then I'll put my oxygen mask on first. That is part of the transmission of the divine feminine. And you know, the, the I think what you shared about Mary Magdalene weeping Jesus's face, like it is out of reverence and devotion for life itself that he mirrors to her. And it could have been anything, but it was that. Amy Babish: And I think for many of us, when we are on a journey to remembering who we really are, if it's on a soul level, if it's on a lineage level, when we can start to wipe our own face and see our own magnificence, that is when we can really have the reverence for life itself. It's like I. Leanne: Right. Amy Babish: It is a miracle that I'm here. It is a miracle, right? I've come back to myself. It's A miracle that I'm in touch with my golden city. And when I can come to myself with humility and seeing my humanity, there's no perfection here. Then I can witness the other and let them find their place of belonging in the systemic field without having to make good or bad, right or wrong. It, like, it. It changes. It changes everything. Amy Babish: And I think the plant kingdom, the animal kingdom, the bird kingdom, knows how to be in right relationship with belonging. And I think it's so powerful that the birds are coming to you. Like, the birds. The birds just. They flock. They're a flock. And they also know many birds and mate for life. Many birds take care of other birds when it's. Amy Babish: When the time comes, they do that. Birds take care of themselves. Like, there's just so many metaphors in the bird kingdom that I think it's really important to. To mention that and the miracle and the magic, that they know exactly where to come every time. Like, they know to find their best, and they know how to do it. Leanne: Yeah. Amy Babish: And then the last thing. I don't think I mentioned this with you, but I. I mentioned it recently with someone. You can tell me if I mentioned this to you. Have I mentioned Christena Cleveland to you? Leanne: No. Amy Babish: Okay. So Christena Cleveland was introduced to me by one of the people that I work with in South Africa who is a black theologian. So Christena Cleveland is a black theologian in America, and she left Duke Seminary after being. Experiencing a lot of racism, and she wrote a book, God is a Black Woman. Leanne: And so you did say that. Amy Babish: So I think that there's something about. It's not. I'm not here to tell people who God is. And there's something about really allowing spirit speak to us in the forms that we can receive. So in Leanne's case, spirit speaking through the divine feminine and through angel numbers and through birds. And for some people, God can't be a man, like, just because of the trauma that's not been resolved and from a lot of hurt. And so I'm never here to say, like, you need to drink the Kool Aid. And for those people that like you, you've said, like, five years, I really have not been able to feel like I can go back to church. Amy Babish: Sometimes we need. We need someone to, like, pass the baton, to be like, oh, this is. This is the way that I can receive this message. And it feels. It really feels like God as a black woman is going to be important for your field. Maybe not even you, but it feels. Especially for your maternal lineage, it feels like, yeah, that kind of holiness and sacredness. And I think for anybody you know, Jesus was in the, in the region of Sumeria and the Middle east and Jesus was definitely not white. Amy Babish: And so yes, for, for people who are struggling with how the church is handling things in all different kinds of ways, from sexual abuse to what's happening in, in Palestine, Gaza, like Sudan, Congo, Haiti, any, anywhere that there's confusion. It's not that the church is bad and wrong, it's that just like what we're talking about with story that it's been co opted and it feels really important to say this aloud with your lineage before going into the constellation because I actually feel like today's constellation is a soul constellation. Leanne: Okay. Yes. And, and I want to say this to you. You know how I talk about water? You like I wish not I wish because it would make sense to you if you get a chance to watch. You kind of watch it from the place you left because you left. And maybe it was again divine timing that you left when, so that it would make sense that like it wouldn't feel like, okay, we're just acting this part, right, because you weren't there. And I literally saw, I tried because when you left, I saw your message. I didn't see a lot of people's messages. Leanne: And it was when people were leaving that I now because there was something that was present for me, anytime I show up and I want to do something, people leave. So that's what I presenced and, and I was like that's access denied. And I, I felt it so, so visually like when I, when I come close to something, you know, I spoke the last time about the trees, right? The birds came back as, as they came, whatever we had to take down trees. And I looked at the sun after they put the solar panel and I'm like the sun is still covered by my neighbor's trees. So like we didn't need to take my trees down, you know, but, but it, but it's also information. So last night you should watch the thing because at the end of the constellation, what happened in the other constellation that we had where you facilitated where the fly was like buzzing and, and we ended up. It was like we were looking at the Earth. Like we were looking at the biggest foundation of like where like the balance rebalance of nature and, and how the, the homogeneous. Leanne: Is it homogeneous the way that things were in balance. Like we got what we needed from the Earth, we got the animals, like the ecosystem, the cycle of life was just balance, right. And we had Somebody enter the constellation. Not. Not necessarily knowing what was going on, but somehow it made it work. Is brilliant. But so yesterday at the end of that movement, the person who showed up, like, put boundaries, right? And. And I was talking and. Leanne: And the way I responded at first was kind of like, can we not pay attention to that? Or whatever. But it turns out that person was important because she ended up being the pathway where she was removing and she put a boundary so she could remove the. The. The. The things that were in my way. The stock. And she's like, I felt. And the way that she even expressed it, she's like, I felt like, oh, I did something I wasn't supposed to do. Leanne: But as I. As we went through the. The constellation and the. The. The. The goddesses showed up. And in representation, she's like, I felt like I needed to. Okay. Leanne: It's so like, it makes sense now that this person understands what I'm doing. And that. That felt like fate because the day before I was looking at something about the market, and I do have the market. That's why I said my stolen edge is also tied with. Into my fate. And she leaned back. And then when I made my final statement, it. Completion statement. Leanne: At the end, she said something that was so profound. And you can relate because you. You know this. She said, I feel like what you said made me feel like I went. It's like in the ground, there's movement inside. Inside the earth in. Not on the surface level. And she was like, I don't know what that. Leanne: Like, said it very often that it doesn't know. And I'm sitting down there and I was like, you don't even know what you just told me right now because that's my intention to go to the. Found like the founding Gaia, to go all the way down to the bottom of the foundation of where. And. And then we did a. Almost like a water. All of us had to drink water. Like, like we. Leanne: We need watering of the earth, like, so that we can like, re. Re. We can re. Re. Replenish the soil so that it can. It can, you know, like the reciprocity. Like, we need to heal the. We can't swat the flies away. Leanne: We. Because they're important. All of it is important to the cycle of life and. And that going back into the balance. So when she said that, it was like just music to my soul. Like, soul. Right. My soul was like finally. Leanne: Finally an understanding of what arms I could be seeking it for lately by my. For Liam, by myself. Or it could Be also not just by myself. I just thought that, like, it was me. And so I used silence myself. But maybe I'm represented, a part of a bigger collective of what is like, seeking deep down. And also some of us, we haven't gotten there yet, but there's a deep search inside the soul, my soul. But I'm now realizing I'm not the only one, because as I spoke, other people, like, were like, oh, my gosh, you were speaking my language. Leanne: And that's part of what I was frustrated about because it's kind of like, why do we have to talk about your stuff and leave mine? But maybe I'm. I'm the person that will speak to it. And when I silence my voice, then other people can't find your movement. So it was this whole thing. And in the soul lineage, going back, instead of like, why do you want to go back? We want to move forward. How can we move forward when the line has been poisoned and we need to go back and rework it from the beginning? And it's okay. It's going to take a lot of patience. It's going to take a lot. Leanne: But, but can we, can we, can we kind of go back there? You know, I'm, I'm. I'm African American. I tell people I'm the true definition of African American because, like, I have a lineage in Africa, and I also was born in the United States of America. And, and my niece was talking to me last night about a boycott of African, like, some hair thing in Africa. She's like, in August, they're going to boycott, and it's going around. And she was so upset about it, and she was upset about African Americans. And I said, this is the work that I'm doing. There's no us and them. Leanne: And she said, yeah, but I, but, but, but why would they do that? It's not fair. And I said, think about how we feel. How. What do you know about African Americans? How did you get that information? Was it experience? Or what was told to you that you honor in loyalty? And so that divide, we do it within ourselves. And if we cannot do our own internal work to see, like, to see ourselves, like, to see our shadows and work with our shadows, then the work of unity and peace and wanting to come together, it's not going to happen because we're going to keep attacking each other. So after speaking with her last night and, like, getting her to see that, like, there's no us and them, and that when we do that, that's when we lose we lose the focus of like disunity that we're all seeking and wanting. We. We hurt ourselves with that. Leanne: I told her we have to all see. And I had to do my own work with the political to be able to see this president and look at him and be like, you know, can't stand anything else but, but like, I cannot bring myself to be like, I hate him. This is in 2015 when I was in my. Oh my gosh, I colored my hair red because of this, this, this bad. I was like, I'm angry. Like I was like I was sorted out. But. But this time I took a step back and I said, like, can I. Leanne: He said, someone's child who, whoever birthing loved him. Someone put him on this earth. Someone. He's human. And if I cannot see his humanity, then everything I'm fighting for is lost. I can fight and stand against and hate everything that he's doing. But with the moment I touch his humanity and I condemn his humanity, I'm condemning myself. That's right. Leanne: That's right. Because that's kind of where the work is. If we're talking about love. That's. That's truly the work of love. Truly the work of love to be able to see someone in all of their. And something. That's another South African learning. Leanne: Right. You can look at somebody in their worst, in their worst, but they can still. And they can still look at. You might Nelson Mandela and look at you and say. And not just the words right in action as well. But I love you. You hurt me. You killed people. Leanne: I loved you really took like you really entered my soul and you sought to destroy it. But I can look at you in grace and still see your humanity. That's love. That's the act of love. And that's where my commitment is. Amy Babish: And you know, I have a huge peace building community. I support global peace building community. And it's not to say that it's like Kumbaya. Like I can see someone's humanity and I can have, have fierce boundaries and ask for accountability. So I don't. I also create confusion for people that it's like Kumbayak kind of love. It's like I see you're not less than and you're not worse than. Leanne: It's. Amy Babish: You're a whole person who comes from your own complexity. Leanne: And yes. Amy Babish: I'm not going to drink my own poison by hating you. Leanne: Yes. Yes. Because who's that? That's the word that keeps us separated. Yes. And keeps, keeps us without the fullness that we're all seeking somehow on some level. Amy Babish: Yeah, whatever. It's about the. Leanne: The capacity. Yeah. And. And. And I'm really deeply committed to. It's late in my life, but if you're younger than me, like, you have no idea how, How, How. I'm. I'm gonna say this now, and there might be some eye rolls. Leanne: How lucky you are to be at. Amy Babish: A time like this, no matter how old you are. Leanne: No matter how old you are. Amy Babish: I have clients in their 60s, 70s, I have. Leanne: Yeah. Amy Babish: All ages. And our path is our path. And we. We get the aha to, like, start paying attention in a different way. And there's never. You're never too late. Leanne: And it's the best. Like, if you dare. If you dare to actually really follow that path, the internal. Not what is given to you outside. Right. That internal path you got disconnected from when you were born. Then they cut that umbilical cord. If you dare to. Leanne: To go find. Seek that inside. Oh, my God, the peace. The peace that comes from it. That knowing in yourself, like, there's a piece that is like, no fear. No, no. Like, it's like I can walk outside now and be like, okay, well, I mean, and then all of a sudden, I could look up and be like, the sun. I might actually just press something in my heart. Leanne: And then all of a sudden, the sun would. Would like, oh, that's a yes. Okay. Oh, that's a no. And then. Or the leaves would just cut. The wind would just come, you know, or burn, which is. Come so close that it's like, there's no way. Leanne: Like, how do you feel? I told you, there's two. Like, there's a bird nest outside my. My entrance or whatever. The. The birds, they hatched. And it was one at first, and I was like, that's not normal. I'm worried. And then the other day, I looked yesterday. Leanne: I looked at. I saw two. I was like, okay, that feels better, right? But that's like. That's messaging. That is like. Like, this is. This is. This is. Leanne: We're talking. And then there was a sparrow. Like, the song again, the music, right? There's a spiral perched on. That was perched on top of the. The shrub that had the. The nest. Like, nature does this thing. We don't need to step in there. Leanne: We don't need to do anything. It just knows what to do. I was worried about the squirrels eating the food, and I was like, you know what? Like, this is part of the ecosystem. They get to eat too, because they serve A purpose. So like they finish the food. I, I don't like it, get a little greedy, but I've gotten to like, there's a piece about it now that I'm like. But they cannot eat the whole food, so there will be some. And the birds don't really need that much, so it's okay to, to have the, the, the chipmunks. Leanne: The chipmunks, I think they're really cute, but they've just gotten a little greedy lately. But I'm okay and I think they're really cute and my 6 year old loves saying that. And I, you know, I can, I can, I can deal. And that's really the calling that is like, can we really accept others? And some people need more than others. Some people, when they, when they come together, what is making them? What is, what is. What is feeding that need for greed, right? Chipmunks and the squirrels, they're like, well, wintertime, I cannot make, I cannot go get food for myself. The, the chicken so that I need to get a supply for survival. We're all just trying to survive and find our way. Leanne: So can we hold the capacity for each other to do this traveling together so that we can make it easier? If I can. If I can. The hope is that if I can look into myself and see, find ways that like I might be going through stuff and it's like, I'm not the only. Like, I can. I can still look at somebody who is in need and say, oh, but I have the capacity to jump. This person that might also pay. That person might be like able to look at their own life and be like, you know what? I can pay it forward to the next. And that way we can build, it builds out. Leanne: It becomes. This is. What is it? The U. I am because we are. I cannot stand alone. I cannot do it alone. I cannot live. Like. Leanne: So if all of us can even. No matter how little, if all of us can just tap into, can we get access to it? There's a potential that this picking up the sky is big enough. There is enough. Amy Babish: There is enough. Leanne: There is enough. There is enough. And if we can allow ourselves to dare see that, like, can we. Is there possible, Is there a possibility for enough? Yes. If you look at work, if you're looking outward, you would never have enough. Amy Babish: And, and what I would say to people, you know, to listeners, if you're looking inside and it feels like it's too scary or there isn't enough, those are, those are not all yours. Like, yes, 99 of the time, not yours. And if you have gone inside and inquiry or journaled or however you've done it and you keep on getting the answer that it's you or it's someone else you're blaming. Those two seats are never the whole story. So this is. This is the exact time that you ask for help? Leanne: Yes. Yes. And with that I've also realized that it was not mine. Yep. Right. The feeling of displacement or the feeling of like not belonging was not mine. I was able to press. And it came to me. Leanne: This was someone else's. That was my. We didn't really go into my detailed choice. I don't know. Like. Sorry, my. If you want more, you can. You. Leanne: We can talk about. I would get. But my. That was my grandfather's story who was an orphan. And the day that all these things was going on in my house and was a displacement of the birds. The trees were taken down. Like this picture kept falling out of this book that I had or whatever. But because I don't know much about his lineage, I didn't like. Leanne: I. I wasn't paying attention. I was paying attention to everything else. And that day, it just felt so like it felt. I just did a constant. I did a constellation and. And I realized that it would. That was his field. Leanne: The cards that you drew. That had the. The leopard. Yeah, that's him. Yes. And that was what I couldn't recognize about myself. That was a lion you were even talking. That first one you were telling me about. Leanne: Liar. I was so confused about the lion and the. The elephant. It was so. Like I was so not looking at that part because I'm looking outward or the only. What I know the stories you've been. And. And he kept trying to show up like I could be a resource. Leanne: And this feeling that you're feeling, it's connected to me. When you watch your mom experience that. That displacement that kicking out. Right. It's what. And then we talked. I realized that the land that I live on, if I didn't have a conversation with you, I wouldn't know that it was originally indigenous people's land. And I told you how I saw hawk. Leanne: The birds. I saw a hawk. And a hawk would disappear. I haven't seen it since there was a hawk that was just sitting there. But come to find out in connection, it had to do with the last chief of the. The. The. The indigenous people. Leanne: His name was Quiet Hawk. Can't make this up. Right. And then with the solar system, when they put it. You were the one who helped me the last time we spoke last week, and we were talking 11. 11, right. They've put this on a panel. So the next day, I was so upset, but I was, I was still in my feelings about it. Leanne: But there was something you said about, like, in many ways, it could also be a resource from the sun talking about isis. So I, I, I walked around my house, and that's when I, I saw a feather on the floor right by the, by the, by the, the hub where they put the, the, like, you know, like, just random. And I picked it up, and I picked it up, the feather, and I, I googled it, and it says, ow. And I was like, maybe it's a different word. I was like, is there any way this. I was like, is there any way this feather could be any other bird? And, like, like, other person? Like, no other way, because of the way, like, it describes the feather. And it's like, there's no other way that this could be another bird feather. It is an owl. Leanne: And I told you how when I moved to this house, the lady that we bought the house from said, there's an owl that lives. Our neighbors told us. I never heard that. Ow. I never saw it. It's been, what, five years we've lived in this house? Never. Five years on June 30th. And just after they put the solar panel that, that evening, I was trying to, to fix the bird feeder, and I heard it, and as a client was coming in, and, And I was like, did you hear that? And she's like, what? I said, did you hear the sound? She's like, yeah, I heard it when I came out of my car. Leanne: I was like. Then I told her, I said, that's the first time I'm hearing it. But then it woods. But then the next day, right there, where I shifted my office to where they put the power grid for the solar panel, it's not coincidence. You cannot, you, this is. It's not accident. I found an owl feather, which reassured me that it's. And that's because I, I, I now saw the part of me that felt vicerally the displacement. Leanne: I looked at it. I understood why I was so connected to it. I didn't go fight. And, and like, I, I acknowledge, but where was it inside of me? Why did I feel it so deeply? Amy Babish: You didn't play it out with your husband? Leanne: I didn't what? Amy Babish: You didn't play it out with your husband. Like, instead you were like, no, no, this is really about. Leanne: Yeah. Amy Babish: So I think, yeah, this is so important for those People listening, it might not. You might not be partnered. You might be partnered. But when we play things out and we're convinced this person is doing this to thwart me or sabotage me or make my life, that is nine times out of 10 or 99 times out of 100, it is something that is not yours that you're carrying. And so late, Leanne is really sharing powerfully about how she didn't know because there was, quote, unquote, no story about her orphan grandfather. We can always know. I work with so many people who are adopted. It is never about the story. Amy Babish: Like, there's a true story that we can find when we really journey to wholeness. But the stories that we've been told are oftentimes sometimes 50% true, sometimes 80% true, sometimes 10%, sometimes 1%. And so this. This journey that Leanne has been on is. I hope those who are listening are taking the medicine in. And I also want to say to the other bloodlines in your lineage, I can almost feel them wanting to really say, but we need more help. And I think that we've named this together so you can stop me. The listeners have heard me talk about this with other guests, but I want to make sure that I've shared it with you. Amy Babish: Have I shared with you the analogy about you being the tea bag and the teacup of your lineage? You would remember it if I did? Leanne: No, but I can. I can see how. But go ahead. I don't know. You didn't say that. Amy Babish: So your ancestors, sometimes it's like they're like, kind of like our kids that are like, mama, please help me. I'm pulling on your hair. I'm pulling on your leg. And sometimes the ancestors are like, I need more. Kind of like, you haven't visited your grandmother for a long time. Time. And they're like, here's all the things I need you to do. So I. Amy Babish: I'm saying this to your lineage from my seat because I think you've said it in your way, but also for those people who are listening for the first time, perhaps that I. Leanne: Know what you were saying. I resourced. Amy Babish: Your tea bag has different herbs in it now. And so when you go and steep in the blood lineage you chose, they're getting a different resource. And to step outside into the soul lineage. There are things. You chose this, this blood lineage out of love and devotion just as much as they chose it for you. They saw how epic you were as a soul, and they're like, come on in. Leanne: Welcome in. Amy Babish: And we can't go into this blood lineage to get the balm, the different herbs, whatever it is for your soul, we have to go to the root of it in your soul so to say to your your blood lineage. You will come back into this place in this lifetime, in this timeline with this whatever soul lineage we need to you have the soul retrieval but whatever this is for the root because you're talking about the root of the root and the emptiness and wanting to be fully alive fully on purpose, all those things. The blood lineage is not going to have the antidote. Leanne: So let's, let's. Amy Babish: They will benefit from this. Leanne: Yeah but they didn't know to release. They didn't, they didn't want to release. Yes the they didn't want to release. Like it's almost like the only hope. You're the only hope like you're the only one the only one who who sees who wants to heal, who wants to so it's like. And now I've been telling them actually also now I need to I I I would send you a video of a I think I did did did I do a few days ago well where I burned a healing candle that I bought and I let it I did a constellation with my lineage my paternal side and the the ones who weren't seen. I put resources and my grandma couldn't turn back in on the altar so I I let the candle I resourced with everything that I could and I let the candle just burn and burn and I was up all night from I started at 11 and this candle and something said at 5:55am Something said okay like it's time so I stood up and I recorded the the piece I'll send it to you and I after a while I started speaking to it and I said listen it's 5:55am and I said I'm resource you I'm going to carry and but it's time for me to to to move forward with my I want to feel my own life force and I It's not to say that I and I I told my dad because he was stuck there too like me I dumb and I said but I have to be able to find my life force and I I have to be able to leave this with you because and and accept it as this is the experience and and maybe in this like that it didn't change it but it is what it was but I need and as I was talking about it I said then we I have to go. I have to the candle took its last Thing and it. Leanne: But this is the second time, like, I've seen a candle to its last end. And the candle burnt out right as I was talking to it. And the candle went. And I said, thank you. And it felt like a moment movement in that moment. So now it's like, I think I have permission not. I think I know this, this is my bloodlineage saying, okay, we know you would, like, we can trust that you're not leaving us. Because it's almost like they were holding on to me. Leanne: Yeah. It's like holding them to, are you really gonna come back? Because a lot of people say they're gonna go, and then they never come back. Will you come back? And so it's kind of like. And that was the best that I, I could during that moment. It's like. But I cannot even. None of all of us are going to stay helpless. Right. Leanne: Right. If I, If, If I don't. If I don't see, like, I, I honor you. I carry you with me in my heart. And this is for all of us. Yes. And our lineages. So let me go. Leanne: And I felt like finally. So I don't know what we could do in 25 minutes, but we, We. Amy Babish: We can go for it. So. Leanne: Okay. Amy Babish: It feels to get at, you know, to get at the frequency of what. What is at the crux of it for you. It feels like you can tell me if I'm wrong, but for both of. Both of your biological parents. Because without getting to the complexity, we want to just focus on your, Your biological parents. Do you feel that they both shared the experience of. There was always something missing, no matter how much they. They showed up. Amy Babish: Not about you, but for them. Yeah, I feel like that. Yeah, that's it. Like, Yeah. I feel like in their own flavors, their own two different, very. Two very different lives. But like the degrees of emptiness that they carry are different. But I also feel that the, the, the thread between both is we gave this our everything and it still wasn't what we thought it could be. Leanne: Yes. And there was a deep love that didn't know. It didn't. They did. Because of what was missing. They didn't know how to express it. So it, like, I think each one was feeling like, I'm doing my best. Amy Babish: Yes. Leanne: And. But why can't you. And I'm even experiencing it in my own personal relationship right now where it's kind of like I, I can see my husband, like, really trying, like in, in his best. But it's like, why can't you understand that, Me too. I'm doing my best. Right. The needing to like. But lately I've kind of been like, okay, but I can, I can accept your best as your best. Leanne: But can, can, can we seek together? Which, that's the challenge. I can see together how they can be like a mutual understanding of this is kind of the reason why. Or which is just the cycle that they were stuck in is what I'm also stuck in right now. I, I believe. And I'm, but I'm, but the only difference is that I refuse to settle. Amy Babish: That's right. Leanne: Yeah, you're clear, you're clear on that. And yeah, I, I, I, I really want to find the root of why this place feels empty. And I, and I don't, I don't necessarily, I'm understanding now that I cannot get like, no matter what the relationship is that I have. Like, it's not, it's not coming from outside this. Yeah. Amy Babish: Even if your husband was doing everything, it couldn't fill this up. Leanne: Yeah, absolutely. Yes. Amy Babish: So this is kind of, it's not going to be a, a cappuccino constellation, but it's going to be, I'm saying this mostly for the bloodlineage. So when I do a soul based constellation, we check with the bloody blood lineage first with the mother and the father. Do they carry this? And so we kind of. Because you do so much work with your blood lineage, we can say yes wholeheartedly. So next we're going to tune into the field together and you're going to ask your soul to take us to the lifetime where this started for you, where you were empty no matter what you did. And there was some kind of relational experience of we can't do this together. Leanne: Okay. Amy Babish: Does that make, does that sound right? So when we tune in, you know, just like a regular tune in, you might get things, I might get things. And then what we're going to kind of progressively go into asking your soul to make it really clear and then we'll go through the process. Leanne: Okay. Okay. Amy Babish: What'd you get? Leanne: Right now? All I got was like there was like a centering of this belongs to both lineages. And I didn't seek the. Because I didn't know if we were, I was doing that part yet where you said to, to ask where the origin is. I didn't know if we're doing that part. I thought we're just tuning in just to less. So I, I got like, it's both of us so in the middle, like it was like in the middle And. But it was like a peaceful permission to look at it. Amy Babish: So it's. Leanne: It. Amy Babish: It happens for everybody just as it should. So that's. That's wonderful. I went to your soul and so would you like to hear what I got from your soul? I'll have to find the song afterwards. But of course, your song. Your soul spoke to me in a song and it's this song. It's a beautiful song. It's like, come on in, Come on in. Amy Babish: We don't have a lot of time. I've been. I've been waiting. I've been waiting for you. So I have the chills. So your soul's ready. So now, you know, I get like the amuse Boucher, the appetizer. And so I'm sure you'll get the full picture. Leanne: So we'll. Amy Babish: We'll retune in. Leanne: So we're tuning into what? Just anything that comes up. Amy Babish: No. So we can. We're specifically tuning in just like we would with a family based on constellation. We're tuning into the root or path or soul fractal of where your soul experienced the like profound emptiness. And it might be that like out of protect. Protection or survival, she had to empty her soul or I don't feel like it was taken. But no matter what she did in that lifetime, no one could come together with her and. And it couldn't be fulfilling. Amy Babish: Like a. A shared path kind of way. What you see in your parents marriage, it's what you see in. In your marriage. It's what happened after Sandy Hook. Like nothing could be a balm to fill you up. Leanne: Yeah. Okay. Amy Babish: You love your kids, but still it's like. It's just. It's not doing it. You have retrieved a lot of your soul from the soul retrieval and there's still like a. A part of the Golden City that's like hidden. Leanne: Yeah. Amy Babish: So. Leanne: Yeah. Amy Babish: Or the lights aren't on. Whatever metaphor you want to take. So we're going to go and we ask your soul. Just like a radio dial. We're old enough. I'm from 78. I think you're 81. So we're tuning into a radio dial and we're asking your soul to take us to the lifetime into the context of where this happened for you or her. Amy Babish: The shared life. What'd you get? Leanne: The Middle East? Yep. Amy Babish: What do you see there? Leanne: So the. Again, I can only. I could see, like based on the Bible, the Bible lineage and sort of the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah. And it almost feels like in the Bible store, which I need to go look back into because I don't know if there was more about her, the Lot's wife, where they told her not to turn back and look at the. The destruction of those cities. And she looked back and turned into. The story is that she turned into a pillow of salt. So I. Leanne: I feel like that's kind of. There's something there. Amy Babish: I. I feel it in my body. So do you feel that the primary, like soul. Soul fractal is with Lot's wife, or do you feel like it's. Leanne: Let me. Well, I felt like that was the period that I went into, but let me. Let me. Let me tune into her. Amy Babish: Yeah, I feel a lot of energy when you. I. I felt Sodom and Gomorrah era, but then I felt a lot in my chest. Leanne: Like in. Amy Babish: In Taoism, it's called wind fright. And It's. My daughter's 14. She would call it a jump scare. Like shock. Like shock. Like you're. The wind's taken out of you. Amy Babish: So that's kind of trauma. I. I felt that when I said. Leanne: When I said Lot's wife. Amy Babish: When you said Lot's wife. Leanne: And. Amy Babish: This is gonna probably blow your mind. Not blow your mind. And Taoism, salt is a protector, but it's also a magnetizer. So the fact. Leanne: It's also what a magnetizer. Amy Babish: So you can do it to clear things. Like clear. Leanne: And I've been clearing with salt. Salt lately. Amy Babish: But you could also have salt to magnetize abundance. Leanne: Let's go. Magnetizer. Amy Babish: That. That the medicine of when you look at something that you're quote, unquote, through the story, not supposed to look at, you're turned into salt. That's something that's really poignant. So if it's her or not, the field is speaking to us with something really important for you. So, yeah, we'll go back in and we'll see if it's her. Leanne: Okay. Okay. It didn't. It's almost. It's like about like she's a boundary. So it's not her, but she's the. What came up was that she's the boundary of like. Of the, like, you know, like. Leanne: Of like paying, like looking back and saying, why? Like the questioning. The questioning. Right. This was where the boundary of, like, you don't question, just do as you're told. Or the. This is the consequence and you're going to. This is where you're going to be stuck. You're going to lose. Leanne: So it's almost like she's at the threshold of, like, if you look back then. Then you're gonna be stuck, and. And your story is gonna end there because we don't want to look at that. We want to look forward. So she felt like a gate, like a. Again, like you said, like this. The part where, like, I. It's still dark. Leanne: The light is not on. So that's a. Stuff that's. It's not necessarily her, but it's like a. She is a boundary. There's a boundary there. That's where my boundary was put. Amy Babish: So we can. We can thank her for letting us know that this is important part of that lifetime. And then we're going to ask your soul, can you show us? Were you a part of. What are you. Did you come before or after what happened with Lot's wife, who might be called. It's not in the Bible, but Edo or Edith. Leanne: Yeah. Amy Babish: I did a quick thank. Thank you for quick searches while we're in the. Leanne: In the. Amy Babish: In the technology of modern times. Leanne: Where did I say I saw something about Edith this past week? What was it? That's interesting. Amy Babish: Okay, so you can ask your soul. We really want to know. And. And you can say to her sometimes, you know, this is. This is something that can be really helpful for the soul. You can say to your soul. Leanne: I'm. Amy Babish: I'm. We share the same soul, and I'm in the year 2025. I'm here because I need your help, and you probably need my help, too. Leanne: Okay. Amy Babish: Can you let us know if you had this? The emptiness came before or after? We'll just go with Edith, since that. That's resonating for you. After Edith was pulverized into salt. Leanne: I got before. Amy Babish: Okay. And is your soul giving you any more context for who your soul was before? Before? Leanne: So I'm getting Hagar. Hagar was the Abraham's. Wait, that makes sense. Right here. So that's after Lot's wife, actually. Amy Babish: Okay. Leanne: That was kicked out. She was. And I was gonna sing this earlier, and I didn't. This is a song that I really, really love, and we used to sing it when we were younger. God will make a road through my wilderness so all the world will see he will make a road through this wilderness I know he will. And the power of love. Love. And I woke up this morning, and. Leanne: And I saw a video of somebody talking about her, and she was Ishmael's mom. And her. Like, when she was kicked out of. Like, when Sarah made her leave the. Because, you know, she had Isaac. And she's like, you know, we cannot supply for Isaac. What. So saying this not. Leanne: I'm thinking about my personal side. And what happened. Amy Babish: Yes. Leanne: With my mom, my grandma and then. And the other wives. Right. So. And they were. Came first. And she was called a bond woman. So they said kick her out. Leanne: And so she left. But Abraham gave her a little water and he gave her a little, like just enough. And she was in the wilderness and there was nothing. And she couldn't see, like, what was that? She. She had drunk the last water that she had in the. The thing that she was given. And she put Ishmael, who was the. The beginning of Islam, she put him to the side and turned her face away from him because she was like, I'm just going to let him die. Leanne: Like, because I. But I can't. Like. And. And then she cried to God and said, like, I didn't do. Like, I didn't do anything wrong. Like, I. I was doing what I was supposed to do. Leanne: I was doing. I was checking all my boxes and I got pulled into this servant girl. I got pulled into this thing. And I like you, you gave me and. And now like justice again. Thinking about justice, right? Like, this is unjust to. To kick me out and leave me with nothing. And so she turned around and she said, well, then if he's gonna die, if this is the life that of suffering, I'm gonna turn away from him and. Leanne: Because I cannot watch him die. And just then, like, the angel came to her and said to her to pick her son up and to look the other direction and there's a well and she can get water and that's. He will make her way through the wilderness. And I know the power of love will flow through. Right. And that was. There was a path that we talked about yesterday. Oh my gosh, this is so incredible. Leanne: And she picked. She picked her son. And then she was told that you would be given like your son Ishmael is going to also. He's. He's a descendant of Abraham. So talking about Israel and the Palestine, this is all part of it. This is the story and the lineage too. That is like, your son will be blessed as well. Leanne: And he is a descendant of Abraham, so he will be blessed with nations. He will be. He will be given like he's. You're not abandoned. You're not. You are a direct. You are a descendant. And you will. Leanne: You will have an inheritance as well, and you will be blessed as well. Now the story we're told is that you he will not be blessed like Isaac. Right. He's not going to have enough blessing. And maybe there's the belief now that makes even. Even this war like, makes the entitlement that it's like, well, like you weren't supposed to get enough. So somehow there's this loyalty to. You're not supposed to have as much as Isaac. Leanne: Even though my mom was like my mom, was she excluded? That was my dad's experience. He honored human was loyal to his dad in that way. My. So my mom was the first wife. I'm the second child of the first wife. But I. I seem to be really, really loyal to. I was very loyal to my mom about what was done. Leanne: But my mom was excluding of the bond woman, which is my stepmom. And I didn't accept her either. Like, I. I was very loyal to my mom because I was. My mom was like, I'm never going to accept a bond woman. In fact, it's because of my mom. I know this story. My mom is a Bible. Leanne: Like, so she says I. She's like, I will not accept the bond woman because of the way my stepmom came in. Like, my mom said if she asked for room, if she came and says, hey, can we share this together? I would have been born and happy to share. But she came and bumped her off. So that was my mom's anger and trigger. And my mom, like, that was unforgivable. And I could see that for my mom. And I said, like, that was unjust. Leanne: Yeah. I mean, I don't know. I was a kid, but I understood it again, the stories. Right. I understood it from. Yeah, that wasn't fair. And so that cost. This is in the blood lineage. Leanne: Right. Because my, My mom would never, like, my dad tried to get her to like come back. And my mom was like, absolutely not. She would not be back in the house with a bond woman. And that cost us because that fractured the family. And I think in many ways we still are fractured by it. But I didn't pick. I've never been able to pick. Leanne: Was right. Like, I can see where my mom messed up and I can see where my. Where my dad messed up. And I can still honor both of them for their gifts, but also like, see their flaws and acknowledge them for like their. I mean, you guys were just doing your thing. And now with constellations work, they're loyal to something. And that's. And that's what I healed my. Leanne: The two. The two women, the 555, the candle that I said with the healing that I said, I left it with my grandma and I, and, And the women, I could. I give them beans. And I. And I said, like, I know that that was like something was taken away. I. I put coins to represent their children. And what was taken away from them, the abundance that came to my. Leanne: My. My grandma's children, that. That wasn't given to their children, even though my grandma was supposed to raised them. And. But. But there was an advantage that. That I clearly. I mean, I'm a pariah now because I acknowledged it in the family only. Leanne: I was the only one who had the courage to say, well, you know, I love my grandma and everything, but, you know, like, I mean, there's a part of it that. That story kind of just doesn't add up that, you know, and so I've been seeing them, and in many ways I was loyal to their. Their exclusion. And I think it was Sunday or Monday night that I did the. The constellation. And I. And I resourced them. I, like, I give water, I put water there, I put land, I put beans, I put, like, like. Leanne: And I. And I said that, like, that's the. At this moment, that's the best I can do. But I'm suffering as well. And I'm suffering for something that I. Like, I wasn't even in that life. And I. But I see them and I acknowledge that that wrong, but I. Leanne: But can they see? And you know, when I was doing my altar, what happened, what kept happening was that my son kept falling over. Like Camilo, I used, you know, with my life. And so I. I used Camilo to represent my son, and he kept falling over. Like, all the representations, he's the one that kept falling over. And I was like, there's something there. And so I. When I was doing the constellation with my patron, I brought him in and, you know, my stepmom lost her first. Leanne: She had a stillbirth. Remember I told you that? And I. There was a part of me that felt happy that like. Like, because he was. He has a representation, I put a representation for him, had a different representation. And then my field was like, no, he needs to represent, like a full representation. He was. So I gave him a full representation. Leanne: At some point, I put my brother on top of him, and it's like, no, give him his place. So I did it over and over again, and I kept listening and I gave him his place. But this. This people need to have their place. And I haven't set it up since the. That movement with the candles and everything. But I. I think I'm. Leanne: Today I was planning. Today I was gonna do it to. To give them back. Like, to put. Do my. My own constellation and put myself. But. But it was very important for me to. Leanne: I kept noticing that, like, every two moments, I'll turn around and my son was, like, toppled over. And I. In many ways, I started this work with them. So, like, I. I asked them to look at him and. And. And. And. Leanne: And have compassion for, like, the suffering that is affecting all of us because the lineage is stuck, and they didn't do anything to preserve it. And. And can. Can I. Can we look graciously on the suffering? Even I. I'm seeking to. To. To acknowledge I might not be able to repair and cannot give you back time. Amy Babish: Can we go back to Hagar? Leanne: Okay. Sorry. No, no, no. Amy Babish: This is all part of it, so. You know, Hagar is. I feel like he is here for. Leanne: The sake of time. You said you had. Let me. I'm gonna tell her. Chicken. Resuming nights. Is that okay? Amy Babish: Yeah, that's okay. Leanne: We. Amy Babish: I think we can. We can. We can wrap it up pretty quickly. So. Leanne: Okay. Amy Babish: My sense is that Hagar needed to hear all of this. Leanne: Okay, so. Amy Babish: We'Re gonna go back in, and you're gonna. You're gonna say to Hagar in your own way, I've carried this loyalty, and I've given you so much energy, and I've been confused. And my sense, Leanne, is that you're. Your son might be entangled with Ishmael. So it goes beyond. Like, sometimes things can be so complex, and so to have her with Ishmael and your son there, too, and say to her, I think it's important that we call in an archangel. I'm gonna close my door because someone just came into my house. This is. Amy Babish: This is. This is all. Leanne: All part of it. Amy Babish: Everything's okay for those listening, but we're welcoming in. We're welcoming in a wholeness that has been lost in story, but she's lived it kind of. She's been stuck. I can feel that she's been stuck. And so to invite in, it feels like there might be more than one archangel, but to invite in the archangel to help, kind of like an operating system to give a transmission to the four of you around loyalty, around being given a lot in life because that came through, and being given, like, a predetermined fate and being confused about obedience and loyalty and asking the archangel to update that with, like, whatever word you want to use. I'm not a biblical Scholar. But whatever. Like obedience, biblical obedience. Amy Babish: There has been or like a vow or an agreement between the four of you that that is dissolved and whatever kind of like. Like the thirst because you have carried water in constellations. The thirst that you have carried for her through timelines and through thousands of years. Oh, I'm with it. The thirst that you have carried for thousands of years to come and find her again. That this angel can bring in a water bearer and like infusion that was not available in her lifetime and that they can. The betrayal that I feel a lot of betrayal. Like the betrayal that they carried that was confused as obedience and that you just have to expect. Amy Babish: Accept that. Like this is. These are the consequences and this is how it is that there's no space for humanity. There's no welcoming back home. That the archangel can give a transmission and it might include water. So they might be re baptized with. But that's a possibility because they were in the wilderness. There might be an oasis. Leanne: And that. Amy Babish: The four of you go through this together. And if your blood lineage wants to be there with you. Those that want to receive this psychospiritual energetic baptism, they can receive it. Those that don't want to receive it don't have to. Leanne: Okay, so you said the confusion is. Amy Babish: Obedience and what obedience and like that this is my lot in life. Like things are predetermined and these are the rules. And if you break one rule or if you're imperfect, you are going to have to suffer the consequences. And we will never welcome you back into the fold. And you will be. You will thirst for life itself. You will thirst for justice. You will thirst for writing things like R I G H T I N. Leanne: G. Amy Babish: And it's almost like. It almost feels like a little bit of a curse. Like you will keep playing this out no matter where you go. Like you will always be the one. And it feels like the archangel. Like it doesn't matter if it's marriage. It doesn't matter if it's your family of or origin. It doesn't matter if it's sandy hooked like you will. Amy Babish: You will receive a punishment because this is the lot you chose. And it also feels like after the baptism, it feels like there's going to be like a salt, salt ceremony or ritual and salt for guardianship and protection of. Of the wholeness. But also salt. Salt to magnetize in the path that is. Like this is the path that is yours for the taking. Like, you can choose a different path now and your son can choose a different path and in the afterlife, Hagar and Ishmael can choose something different, too. We can't change what happened. Amy Babish: So I want to. I want to respect the time. But how does that feel as a possible for alchemy and forward movement. Leanne: And remember the soul Chivo. I said I needed to go get gallons and gallons of the salt water. And I. It came up yesterday that I said I. I should have gone to the birthday. Amy Babish: Yes. Leanne: Because to get it. To go in the ocean and get water. To get the water and. And because I needed. I remember when you said, we have a lifetime, but then I've been giving grace to Sat down last night and I literally recorded myself singing that song. It just came to me. Yeah. Like. Leanne: And I recorded myself. I was like, oh, I need to record this song. I remember it. I love this song so much. Amy Babish: Yeah, it feels like what I'm hearing when I'm kind of. You know, you and Hagar get to decide first and foremost, but it feels like going to the Dead Sea, that wasn't always dead, that feels like the place to do it because you're. Leanne: You're. Amy Babish: You're weightless and you're free and you're at peace there. Leanne: Didn't I show you the Dead Sea with the. What I was looking for? I was looking for my. And where's the Dead Sea? Amy Babish: The Dead Sea is in Jordan. Near Jordan. Leanne: And this past week, I've been questing. I was like, I need to go to Egypt. Jordan and Egypt. I was like, that should be my next trip. Amy Babish: So for those listening, Leanne knows how to do this part and we want to respect that she has a client and that you have been journeying with us and this. This feels. This feels meaningful. And Leanne, do you have any questions about it for when you know, she knows how to set up her own time with it? Do you have any questions before we close those out? Leanne: No, this feels very. Oh, my gosh. Like, right. No, this feels very complete because I'm going to. What. What. What you just told me now. And doing this, I'm never going to be able to do it. Leanne: And Rarity pass the time. I want to respect your time too, so. And. And maybe that's why I was seeing. But I never lit it, so it's possible that it's saying, like, you need time to do. Like, you're not going to need to do this right this moment. You need. You need to give yourself the space to do it. Leanne: So I don't want to rush it because this is profound. Yeah. Thank you. Amy Babish: Thank you to you, to your soul, to your blood lineages and to your son and to all that has conspired to allow for wholeness and feeling. Like, wholeness as in like I'm feel, I'm full. I'm full and I'm satiated and I'm nourished for everyone involved for the thousands of years, the millions of people, and for everything in your legacy that you're going to be creating going forward. So thank you for your trust. Leanne: Thank you. All of that right back at you. I mean, I'm just going to be quiet right now so you can just feel my heart and my soul reach out to you. Amy Babish: I receive it. I receive it. The deep, the, the reciprocity, the reciprocal. Thank you, thank you, thank you. And for those of you listening, if you would like to dip your toes into this work, you might not have an epic of story as Leanne's, but everyone has their own epic story. Everybody does. And it's never the story that we're afraid of. It's never the negative, unique snowflake, I'm super fucked up story. Amy Babish: It's the whoa, I didn't know this was your story. And my intention is always to create a massive ripple effect with the people I work with. No matter if you are a stay at home parent or if you're someone who's working in corporate America, or if you're a teacher, or if you are someone who is a healer or helper or a medicine person yourself, medical doctor or medicine woman or man. My skill set is unique and I am here to help bring the world into right relationship with all that is one person at a time, one system at a time. So reach out. Leanne: Thank you for your capacity. Thank you for your capacity in your container of safety. It's incredible. I don't know if you know it, but I felt like I needed to say that. Amy Babish: Thank you. Leanne: Definitely. Unique, but also needed. And yeah, it's all. Amy Babish: I am a words person. I think after all the lifetimes I've lived, I really like words. And some people are like, oh, I'm sure you know this, Amy, but I actually do. I do like feedback and words a lot. Leanne: Okay. So I don't know, I, I like the. But that part that I didn't. There was something about my soul that wanted to just communicate to your soul with that silence. But the feedback in words is don't ever doubt your, your magical container. It is, it is unique. You said it, you know it. It is very unique. Leanne: It is not to be able to allow and to hold for this to happen. Like, this is something I've carried for 12 years and even probably longer than that. And just kind of like even your random sensitivity to your soul and to, to, to the field that of the unconscious to reach out to me in the way that you did and to, for our souls to do what they did when we first met and find each other and to be sensitive to the needs and, and kind of what is what was being co. Created and for a movement for you, for me and, and whatever you're into. I don't even know what your, your particular intention is in the, in, in the collective of what you did, but I'm pretty sure it's connected to, to, to this. It's kind of like we're seeking. You're a seeker. I'm a seeker, but I'm also like, somehow we were, we were sent to each other to, to, to give each other important pieces of the puzzle that we were, we were both seeking in this journey of like reaffirming and reinforcing like, that this is truly your purpose and truly your gift that you've been given. Leanne: And it's unique. That's why the words are important to you, because you use it to track and check. Like, it's just really. Because it's really hard sometimes to believe that like really me or who, like me me, this little, I mean, like, can I really. Is it really possible? So when you can hear that and the synchronicities of it is reassuring and it's telling that it's like, oh, okay, now you can move on to the next one with even more confidence and more grounding and, and, and this magical gift that you've been given, that it's not given to everybody in that way, like everybody has their own magic sauce, but, but this is your own unique magic source and it does work and it is profound and it's a gift. And so thank you. Amy Babish: Thank you. Leanne: Those are the words. Amy Babish: Thank you, thank you. Thank you, Leanne. And for those who've hung with us, please reach out. If it's three sessions, if it's a year together, if it's a weekend intensive, I'm here for all of it, sending blessings from the Doeg land that I, that I steward and water to quench whatever you've been thirsty for. Thank you. Thank you. Leanne: Thank you. Amy Babish: That's all for this episode of the Soulful Visionary podcast. 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